Adam Hardy wrote:
Is it right to assume that no-one is interested by the idea of extending the S2 Result to allow extra configuration or classes at this location in the architecture?

Hi Adam, I haven't been convinced yet that there's a strong argument for this compared to alternative approaches yet. Or rather that the effort doesn't seem justified for the amount I'd use it. However one related use-case I've yet to find a good approach for is when using the REST plugin and a ContentTypeHandler to determine which result handler is executed:
For the same result:
- when the requested content type is HTML, a view is returned that often does need access to additional data (eg. options for a select) - when the requested content type is XML or JSON, the result does not need that additional data to be prepared In this case it makes sense that only the HTML result itself, or the view components themselves, should perform the additional logic to prepare the HTML view. The action itself definitely should not be doing it (but does).

Your proposal may be the best way to solve that but may need some more thought within that context.

I had quickly coded a Result to do some 'view logic' (i.e. retrieve a list from the model) and I had assumed I would be able to parameterize this using extra parameters in <result> but it seems my extra parameters are ignored - the only one that counts is <result><param name="location">

Is that correct?

AFAIK, you can define any new parameters for your Result and set them through struts.xml <param> provided there's a public property for it. I've definitely used it for custom results extending StrutsResultSupport. I have a getter and setter in every case.


Adam Hardy on 02/01/08 23:55, wrote:
That was the standard struts 1 approach, IIRC. My grudge with the other solutions I think also applies to this: it's not a natural solution, it's another square peg in a round hole.

This is why I'd like to see something in Struts2 that addresses this fundamental duality of purpose in the HTTP request.


Adam

Brian Pontarelli on 02/01/08 22:50, wrote:

However, this still requires some composition or inheritance to support multiple actions using the same preparation right?

-bp


Musachy Barroso wrote:
What I do is that I create an "input" map to the input method on the same action class for which validation is failing. That method is empty (from ActionSupport), and forwards to the page that will show the data. On this page I use the normal tags backed by the action. If multiple tags call the same method then I "cache" the results on the action. I think your problem
can easily be solved by making "input" go thru an action, instead of
forwarding to the page straight. (but you already knew this :) )
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regards musachy

On Dec 31, 2007 11:41 AM, Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Happy New Year everybody.


This issue is mostly due to the validation failure mechanism which passes
flow direct to the 'input' result without giving a chance to code the
data retrieval needed to get data for dropdowns, associated lists, etc
etc which the view/JSP will need.

Currently the assorted solutions to this all seem to be forcing round pegs into square holes. For instance, I could make the 'input' result an action chain to go onto another action which does the data reading. Or I
could fetch the data via an <s:action> or a taglib.

The S2 documentation says in various places things like:

"First, we need to change or query the application's state, and then we
need to present an updated view of the application. The Action class
manages the application's state, and the Result Type manages the view."

Three or four years ago, this issue with the view was discussed alot. There was talk of mechanisms termed 'view-controllers' and concepts such
as 'view logic'.

I'd love to see this accommodated for in S2.

There is a certain amount of coding I can do to achieve my goals in the
Results, but it may not be the best place for it - the name 'Result'
implies more of a link between the Action and the View, rather than a
place for coding data retrieval.

Essentially I think there is a strong call for a Class or chain of classes that can be tied to each particular View, whether Tile, JSP,
velocity or whatever.

This is obviously not what Results were designed for. I can do it currently but the S2 config allows only one class per ResultType - so
effectively I'd need one ResultType per JSP, or some pattern for it.

The sort of operations I'm thinking of:

- retrieving lists, sometimes parameterized (e.g. a list of items allowed
in a particular category - requires the categoryId)

- caching lists (countries in ApplicationScope, personalized data in session for example)

- localization of dropdown beans (i.e. country names)


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