On Jan 12, 2008 12:24 PM, Antonio Petrelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/1/12, Tom Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I disagree, I think there is a support cost. If users are having issues > > with the 1.4 stuff, (which happens more often than not) then we're > > obligated to assist that user. > > Obligated? Come on we are all volunteers, we are not obliged to do > anything: we do it because we like what we do.
It's true that we're volunteers, and any of us can walk away whenever we like, but it's also true that when we vote +1 on a GA, each voter is saying that he or she intends to help support the release. If the release includes a J4 distribution, it means that we are each saying that we will make a good-faith effort to support that distribution too. If none of the committers are using the J4 builds in production now, and we have no realistic expectation that any of us are going to try and support the J4 builds, then it's dishonest to include them. > > Long term I > > think we will drop the 1.4 stuff at some point, it's just a matter of > > figuring out when. > > I think that if we drop the 1.4 stuff, we lose a lot of audience. If it means we are going to lose active contributors, then I say we should keep doing it. If it means we are going to lose anonymous users who don't contribute to the project, then I don't care. > > Another advantage is the builds become a bit simpler. (Or at least > > there's a chunk of the build that goes away) > > Retrotranslation seems a pretty fast process to me. It is fast, but the artifacts add to the clutter and confusion. The question is whether it's gaining us active contributors. Not freeloaders who just download the software, but volunteers who answer mailing list posts and provide patches. A year ago, the answer was yes. Now, I'm not so sure. -Ted. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
