On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Jim Cushing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > P.S. By "rather poor designs features" of Struts 1, I refer primarily > to choice of making Actions singletons, which required a separate > ActionForm bean. As I've read the history of Struts 1, WebWork, and > Struts 2, much of it written by the members of this list, I see that > they've acknowledge the drawbacks of that approach and have learned > from it. By no means did I mean to disparage the Struts 1 team. The > nature of software is that it gets better with time as we refine our > designs. > > That said, it's interesting that the Spring MVC team decided not to > learn from, and instead repeat, this mistake.
It's useful to remember that decisions like this (for any framework) were not made in a vacuum. Instead, they were influenced by the technology available at the time. In the case at hand, Struts 1 was designed in the days when JDK 1.1 was the predominant platform, and object creation/GC was so expensive that anyone who profligately creates lots of objects per request (the way that many modern frameworks do it) would have been considered patently insane :-). After that point, and especially for a framework that achieved the popularity that Struts 1 did, backwards compatibility for existing applications became a pretty strong motivation not to change something this fundamental lightly. Note, for example, that servlets are *still* singletons, even ten years later. Craig McClanahan > > > > On Mar 13, 2008, at 12:33 PM, Jim Cushing wrote: > > > I'm but a humble Struts 2 user (and a Spring MVC critic), so forgive > > me for lurking on this list (it's a great way for me to follow the > > progress). I posted two comments to that blog (search for "jimothy") > > that I think sum up Spring MVC vs. Struts 2 from a mindshare > > perspective. I'd be interested to hear how those in the thick of > > Struts 2 development feel about this. > > > > On Mar 12, 2008, at 11:41 AM, James Mitchell wrote: > > > >> Interesting read... > >> > >> > http://www.oreillynet.com/onjava/blog/2008/03/spring_mvc_javafx_google_web_t.html > >> > >> -- > >> James Mitchell > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
