"The" model? "The" model is whatever you want exposed to the view layer;
there's nothing that states it has to be the lowest-level domain object
available--it's just "that which you wish exposed to your rendering".

I don't usually use the built-in validations (for a variety of reasons) so
I'd have to experiment with that to find what I liked.

Dave


On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Mike Menzies <glo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I can see that approach working well. You don't feel that it's misusing
> ModelDriven... by not directly returning the model?  Also, if you are
> validating your model, would adding @VisitorFieldValidator to the domain
> getter within the decorator work the same?
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Dave Newton <davelnew...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Then I'm not sure I see the point; `ModelDriven` would do the same, but
> > you'd expose the decorator, not the underlying domain object. I tend
> > towards the same pattern, but delegate directly to a domain model, so I
> can
> > precisely control access (and document) at the view level.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Mike Menzies <glo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Yes. That's pretty much exactly what it is.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Dave Newton <davelnew...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > So it's a presenter/decorator?
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Mike Menzies <glo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > My name is Mike, and I work for a fairly large company that uses
> > > Struts 2
> > > > > for most of its web apps. Some of these web apps are quite large,
> and
> > > one
> > > > > in particular has grown into a monster. In my ongoing efforts to
> > clean
> > > up
> > > > > this project, I have developed what I like to call a JspHelper.
> > Before
> > > I
> > > > > explain exactly what that is, I'd like to provide you with some
> > > examples
> > > > of
> > > > > the problems that I set out to fix.
> > > > >
> > > > > *Problem 1 - Monster JSPs*
> > > > > During early development of this project, struts tags were highly
> > > > > leveraged. I was not involved with the early phases of this
> project,
> > > so I
> > > > > can't speak to why they were used so extensively.. but they were.
> > Tons
> > > of
> > > > > nested if tags that read var tags that were set in the JSP. Some of
> > > these
> > > > > JSPs were very hard to follow.
> > > > >
> > > > > Even though I am a fan of struts tags, I've come to realize that
> they
> > > > > should not be overused. JSPs cannot be unit tested and JSPs are
> hard
> > to
> > > > > debug.
> > > > >
> > > > > So cleaning up a JSP means shifting logic out, in most cases into
> the
> > > > > action. An easy clean up could be something like this:
> > > > >
> > > > > <s:if test="articles != null && articles.size > 0 &&
> > > > user.canViewArticles">
> > > > >
> > > > > into
> > > > >
> > > > > <s:if test="showArticleSection()">
> > > > >
> > > > > It's instantly more readable, and the logic is in a testable Java
> > > class.
> > > > > Following this approach creates a lot of methods in the action,
> which
> > > can
> > > > > be a problem if you already have...
> > > > >
> > > > > *Problem 2 - Bloated Action Classes*
> > > > >
> > > > > When the project was small, it made a lot of sense to create
> > > > > abstract/parent action classes to share code between actions. As
> time
> > > > > passed, we just continued shoving any shared code in one of two
> > > > "abstract"
> > > > > classes... even if the code was only being shared between two out
> of
> > > the
> > > > 20
> > > > > actions.
> > > > >
> > > > > The fix for this trend is to moved shared code into services, so we
> > > began
> > > > > enforcing that practice. But this approach had its limitations. We
> > use
> > > > > Spring injection for all of our services, and some times a
> particular
> > > > piece
> > > > > of logic just required too much stateful input... it just made more
> > > sense
> > > > > to leave it on the action where it had easy access to everything it
> > > > needed,
> > > > > as opposed to shoving it in a stateless service and having to pass
> > in a
> > > > ton
> > > > > of arguments.
> > > > >
> > > > > What we really needed was some best practices put in place for the
> > > > creation
> > > > > of stateful, non-Spring services.
> > > > >
> > > > > *Enter JspHelperInceptor
> > > > >
> > > > > *
> > > > > It wasn't until after I created this inceptor that I realized it is
> > > > almost
> > > > > identical to the ModelDrivenInceptor. At which point, I wondered if
> > > that
> > > > is
> > > > > what I should actually be using.. but more on that later.
> > > > >
> > > > > All this interceptor does is push an object onto the value stack.
> > > That's
> > > > > it. Your action implements JspHelperAware which provides Object
> > > > > getJspHelper(), and the intercept code reads almost line for line
> > with
> > > > the
> > > > > ModelDrivenInterceptor.
> > > > >
> > > > > The idea behind this JspHelper, which is just a POJO that you
> define,
> > > is
> > > > to
> > > > > provide a place where all (or most) of the data your JSP needs can
> be
> > > > > found. This means that OGNL can find any public members or
> operations
> > > > > faster, and also developers can trace back any OGNL expressions in
> > the
> > > > JSP
> > > > > to it's corresponding Java code.
> > > > >
> > > > > This approach places code in a shareable component. You can easily
> > > > > aggregate one JSPHelper into another one, and then either provide
> > > wrapper
> > > > > methods or simply push the aggregate helper onto the stack using
> the
> > > > s:push
> > > > > tag for direct access to it's members.
> > > > >
> > > > > This approach makes the actions leaner, and provides a very clear
> cut
> > > > view.
> > > > > I find at times that the action tends to be both controller and
> view,
> > > > when
> > > > > really it should only act as the controller (IMO).
> > > > >
> > > > > This technique is functionally very similar to ModelDriven, but
> it's
> > > used
> > > > > slightly differently. I've used a JspHelper in combination with
> > > > > ModelDriven, and I've found the JspHelper to be a good place to
> store
> > > > > logic.. and leave the Model strictly as a business object.
> > > > >
> > > > > *Conclusion
> > > > > *
> > > > > I have personally found this technique incredibly useful in
> cleaning
> > up
> > > > > code. You can shift all of the JSP exclusive logic and properties
> to
> > > the
> > > > > helper without touching the JSP (the OGNL expressions remain the
> > same).
> > > > > Then after that initial step, you have a real handle on the exact
> > input
> > > > > your JSP needs, and the actual clean up process progresses faster
> and
> > > > with
> > > > > less errors. I'm still in the process of establishing some best
> > > > practices,
> > > > > but so far this approach is working for us.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would like some honest feedback
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > e: davelnew...@gmail.com
> > > > m: 908-380-8699
> > > > s: davelnewton_skype
> > > > t: @dave_newton <https://twitter.com/dave_newton>
> > > > b: Bucky Bits <http://buckybits.blogspot.com/>
> > > > g: davelnewton <https://github.com/davelnewton>
> > > > so: Dave Newton <http://stackoverflow.com/users/438992/dave-newton>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > e: davelnew...@gmail.com
> > m: 908-380-8699
> > s: davelnewton_skype
> > t: @dave_newton <https://twitter.com/dave_newton>
> > b: Bucky Bits <http://buckybits.blogspot.com/>
> > g: davelnewton <https://github.com/davelnewton>
> > so: Dave Newton <http://stackoverflow.com/users/438992/dave-newton>
> >
>



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