> 
> Christoph, nothing changes in your example; there is no expression to
> evaluate.
> 
> 

Really?

I thought the string "myActionMember" is an expression which is evaluated 
against ValueStack.


Regards,
Christoph




(on a side note: I will be offline for next 2.5 weeks, otherwise it would 
not be holyday ;)




> 
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 3:38 AM, Christoph Nenning <
> christoph.nenn...@lex-com.net> wrote:
> 
> > This could make very simple usecases overly complicated.
> >
> > E.g. using just a textfield:
> >
> > <s:textfield name="myActionMember" />
> >
> >
> > This is already OGNL. And OGNL is used for reading and writing.
> >
> > How would you do this with EL (especially the writing part) ?
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Christoph
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > That's the pattern I expect. One tag should expose what you need 
from
> > > Struts to EL -- the rest of the Struts tags should just be pure EL
> > enabled.
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Paul
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Christoph Nenning <
> > > christoph.nenn...@lex-com.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > In my JSPs I have interactions with struts all the time so OGNL is
> > > > important for me.
> > > >
> > > > A pattern I use quite often is to get objects via <s:set> (OGNL) 
and
> > > > afterwards use them with EL/JSTL.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Christoph
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I believe my thoughts are similar. When I code, I explicitly try 
to
> > be
> > > > > "OGNL free" in my JSP. There's no reason for me to use OGNL 
unless I
> > am
> > > > > forced to via interaction with Struts. I do what I can do make 
sure
> > my
> > > > JSP
> > > > > usage sticks with the EE standard.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Paul
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Aaron Johnson
> > > > <johnson.aar...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > EL now supports many functions of OGNL. Would it make sense 
just
> > to
> > > > replace
> > > > > > OGNL with EL? There doesn't seem to be much of a community 
around
> > > > updating
> > > > > > OGNL. The newer versions of EL have improved support for usage
> > outside
> > > > of
> > > > > > the JSP environment. Is it possible to use EL in the other
> > templates
> > > > > > (Velocity, Freemarker, etc)? It is very confusing to have to 
work
> > with
> > > > > > multiple expression contexts (ValueStack lookups and JSTL) 
when
> > > > authoring
> > > > > > JSPs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Paul Benedict
> > <pbened...@apache.org>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Maybe we should have two versions of the tags? One that 
accepts
> > EL
> > > > (and
> > > > > > > never executes OGNL) and another one that does. Quite 
honestly,
> > I
> > > > have no
> > > > > > > use for OGNL inside of JSP.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > Paul
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Paul Benedict
> > > > <pbened...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That's disappointing that we're crippling the use of these
> > tags. I
> > > > just
> > > > > > > > want to use EL for single evaluation. I don't need both 
OGNL
> > and
> > > > EL in
> > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > tags -- just EL.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > Paul
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Dave Newton
> > > > <davelnew...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > 
http://struts.apache.org/release/2.2.x/docs/why-cant-i-use-jstl-
> > > > > style-el-expressions-in-struts-tags.html
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Paul Benedict
> > > > <pbened...@apache.org
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> > Is this a bug? I cannot use an EL expression to set the
> > "value"
> > > > > > > >> attribute.
> > > > > > > >> > I don't understand why such a restriction exists. 
Thoughts?
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > Cheers,
> > > > > > > >> > Paul
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
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