Just a thought: is the upgrade time linear with WC size?  If so, I say
"good enough", if much worse than linear, probably not good enough.

- Julian


On Tue, 2011-06-07 at 15:22 -0400, Paul Burba wrote:
> We've touched upon the performance of 'svn upgrade' vs. a fresh
> checkout a few times:
> 
> "1.7 timing tests: update great, checkout needs work, upgrade horrible"
> http://svn.haxx.se/dev/archive-2010-12/0161.shtml
> 
> "1.7 performance requirements for release"
> http://svn.haxx.se/dev/archive-2010-12/0232.shtml
> 
> "WCNG - Upgrading working copies"
> http://svn.haxx.se/dev/archive-2010-11/0503.shtml
> 
> We don't have anything specific to this on the roadmap beyond
> (possibly?) taking a look at svn_wc_upgrade as part of the API
> Performance Analysis.  The only relevant issue I saw was
> http://subversion.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=3785 "fix
> performance of 'svn upgrade' text-base handling" and that is marked as
> fixed.
> 
> I ran a series of simple comparisons today, checking out the 1.6.17
> tag vs. upgrading a 1.6 WC of the same.  The upgrade was about twice
> as slow (yes obviously there are a lot of moving parts here and making
> a comparison between a local operation and one over the network is
> inherently dubious, but it's something):
> 
>   svn co -q https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/subversion/tags/1.6.17
> 
>   (3,214 files, 452 directories excluding .svn folders)
>   Using trunk@1133033 with ra_neon (ra_serf fails[1])
> 
>     Elapsed Time :  00:00:54.493
>     Elapsed Time :  00:00:52.994
>     Elapsed Time :  00:00:48.076
>     Elapsed Time :  00:00:48.461
>     Elapsed Time :  00:00:52.306
>     Elapsed Time :  00:00:41.084
>     Elapsed Time :  00:00:52.210
>     Elapsed Time :  00:01:14.680
>     Elapsed Time :  00:01:29.557
>     Elapsed Time :  00:01:33.237
> 
>     Average time :  00:01:00.710
> 
>   svn upgrade -q
>   FWIW: WCs checked out with 1.6.17 client
>   Upgrade done with trunk@1133033
> 
>     Elapsed Time :  00:02:03.156
>     Elapsed Time :  00:02:45.311
>     Elapsed Time :  00:02:39.375
>     Elapsed Time :  00:01:32.864
>     Elapsed Time :  00:01:03.170
>     Elapsed Time :  00:01:27.547
>     Elapsed Time :  00:00:00.064
>     Elapsed Time :  00:01:57.378
>     Elapsed Time :  00:01:52.263
>     Elapsed Time :  00:02:39.548
>     Elapsed Time :  00:02:47.763
> 
>     Average Time:   00:02:04.844
> 
> A few questions:
> 
> 1) Any other issues or threads of relevance I missed?
> 
> 2) Is anyone actively looking at this?
> 
> 3) Is there a general sense that upgrade performance is currently
> adequate?  Do we really care if upgrade is slower than a checkout, as
> long as it is in the ballpark?  After all, this is a one-and-done
> operation for most users.
> 
> 4) When we release 1.7 what will our default recommendation be
> (assuming the user has no local changes)?  Upgrade or fresh checkout?
> I'm assuming the former, but are we open to the latter if performance
> is a problem?
> 
> Paul
> 
> [1] Haven't looked into this yet:
> 
> C:\SVN\sandbox\1.7-Performance-Test\upgrade-vs-checkout>timethis svn
> co -q https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/subversion/tags/1.6.17
> 1.6.17-serf-WC1
> 
> TimeThis :  Command Line :  svn co -q
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/subversion/tags/1.6.17
> 1.6.17-serf-WC1
> TimeThis :    Start Time :  Tue Jun 07 14:22:16 2011
> 
> svn: E620019: Error retrieving REPORT (620019): APR does not
> understand this error code
> This application has halted due to an unexpected error.
> A crash report and minidump file were saved to disk, you can find them here:
> C:\Users\pburba\AppData\Local\Temp\svn-crash-log20110607142236.log
> C:\Users\pburba\AppData\Local\Temp\svn-crash-log20110607142236.dmp
> Please send the log file to us...@subversion.apache.org to help us analyze
> and solve this problem.
> 
> NOTE: The crash report and minidump files can contain some sensitive 
> information
> (filenames, partial file content, usernames and passwords etc.)


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