IOW the easiest way for us to support OPTIONS
requests with this module, which would require
no code changes to the module I wrote, is for the
initial OPTIONS request to hang a ?p=whatever
query string onto the request whenever it's dealing
with pegrevs.






>________________________________
> From: Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com>
>To: Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> 
>Cc: "dev@subversion.apache.org" <dev@subversion.apache.org> 
>Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 1:04 PM
>Subject: Re: Coniguring 301/302 redirects to track an fspath rename
> 
>
>A few urls to fetch to get the basic idea:
>
>http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/trunk
>(will redirect)
>
>http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/trunk?p=1400000
>(won't redirect)
>
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>
>>________________________________
>> From: Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com>
>>To: Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> 
>>Cc: "dev@subversion.apache.org" <dev@subversion.apache.org> 
>>Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 12:15 PM
>>Subject: Re: Coniguring 301/302 redirects to track an fspath rename
>> 
>>
>>The code is here if you are interested (dunno
>>if it's publicly accessible or not but I believe
>>so).
>>
>>
>>
>>https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/infrastructure/trunk/projects/svn_check_path/
>>
>>
>>
>>>________________________________
>>> From: Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com>
>>>To: Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> 
>>>Cc: "dev@subversion.apache.org" <dev@subversion.apache.org> 
>>>Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 12:10 PM
>>>Subject: Re: Coniguring 301/302 redirects to track an fspath rename
>>> 
>>>
>>>I backed off with the idea of trying to coax
>>>new behavior out of svn clients by munging OPTIONS
>>>responses, but GET and HEAD are now doing
>>>interesting things even with ?p= set.  For our
>>>purposes someday it would be nice to just have
>>>a graduating podling's checkouts all auto-switch
>>>to the moved location.  Whether that's
>>>accomplished by augmenting an OPTIONS request
>>>with revision details or just using the existing
>>>GET/HEAD support or some other method would be
>>>just fine with me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>________________________________
>>>> From: Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com>
>>>>To: Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> 
>>>>Cc: "dev@subversion.apache.org" <dev@subversion.apache.org> 
>>>>Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2013 2:07 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: Coniguring 301/302 redirects to track an fspath rename
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>The (pegrev) revision is typically available on
>>>>the command-line: all I want is for svn to distinguish
>>>>between
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    svn ls foo@1000000
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    svn ls foo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>as far as making redirects pegrev-aware.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>________________________________
>>>>> From: Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com>
>>>>>To: Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com> 
>>>>>Cc: dev@subversion.apache.org 
>>>>>Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2013 1:53 AM
>>>>>Subject: Re: Coniguring 301/302 redirects to track an fspath rename
>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>>Oh, and to the second part: the code which sends OPTIONS has no knowledge 
>>>>>about the future operations. There is no way to send <revision/>, or 
>>>>>similar. *Very* disconnected, as in: not even cheesy-hackable.
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>-g
>>>>>On Feb 2, 2013 1:49 AM, "Greg Stein" <gst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>That OPTIONS request is generic, and contains no information about the 
>>>>>future operation(s) that will be performed on the connection. It is used 
>>>>>for the client to validate and gather information about the server.
>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>-g
>>>>>>On Feb 2, 2013 1:23 AM, "Joe Schaefer" <joe_schae...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So I now see the request body (xml payload)
>>>>>>>in the OPTIONS request, but nothing there nor
>>>>>>>in the headers tells me about revision numbers.
>>>>>>>If I can convince you to add a <revision/> block
>>>>>>>to the OPTIONS request body I can handle the rest
>>>>>>>from the httpd side.  Obviously this won't help
>>>>>>>existing clients, but hey it's a gee-whiz feature
>>>>>>>anyhow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>________________________________
>>>>>>>> From: Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>>To: 'Daniel Shahaf' <d...@daniel.shahaf.name>; Bert Huijben 
>>>>>>>><b...@qqmail.nl> 
>>>>>>>>Cc: "dev@subversion.apache.org" <dev@subversion.apache.org> 
>>>>>>>>Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 9:26 PM
>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: Coniguring 301/302 redirects to track an fspath rename
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>So I have this implemented about as well
>>>>>>>>as I can with what I know about OPTIONS
>>>>>>>>requests that svn generates.  It would
>>>>>>>>help if I knew how svn supplies revision
>>>>>>>>information in the OPTIONS request headers
>>>>>>>>so I can pass that along to the codebase
>>>>>>>>instead of always using the youngest rev.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>________________________________
>>>>>>>>> From: 'Daniel Shahaf' <d...@daniel.shahaf.name>
>>>>>>>>>To: Bert Huijben <b...@qqmail.nl> 
>>>>>>>>>Cc: dev@subversion.apache.org 
>>>>>>>>>Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 3:33 PM
>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: Coniguring 301/302 redirects to track an fspath rename
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>Bert Huijben wrote on Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 21:28:10 +0100:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> > From: Daniel Shahaf [mailto:d...@daniel.shahaf.name]
>>>>>>>>>> > Sent: vrijdag 1 februari 2013 19:11
>>>>>>>>>> > To: dev@subversion.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>> > Subject: Coniguring 301/302 redirects to track an fspath rename
>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>> > Does anyone have an example of how to configure a server to issue
>>>>>>>>>> > 301/302 redirects for an fspath that had been renamed?
>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>> > For example we have
>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>> >     <Location /repos/asf>
>>>>>>>>>> >     SVNPath ...
>>>>>>>>>> >     </Location>
>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>> > And we'd like to do:
>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>> > 
    # The project was renamed
>>>>>>>>>> >     Redirect /repos/asf/openejb 
>>>>>>>>>> >https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tomee
>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>> > but we're hitting various problems:
>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>> > - The redirect kicks in for historical revisions (prior to the 
>>>>>>>>>> > 'svn mv
>>>>>>>>>> >   ^/openejb ^/tomee' in r1432805) too, such as:
>>>>>>>>>> >  https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openejb?p=1400000
>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>> > - A similar configuration failed to kick in during update/checkout 
>>>>>>>>>> > of
>>>>>>>>>> >   working copy checked out from (a pre-rename revision of) 
>>>>>>>>>> >^/openejb:
>>>>>>>>>> >   the initial request got matched and redirected, but a subsequent
>>>>>>>>>> >   request to /repos/asf/!svn/.../openejb failed to match.
>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>> > Ideally we'd like
 to issue a 301 redirect for requests to /openejb that
>>>>>>>>>> > concern r1432805 or later, but leave requests concerning r1432804 
>>>>>>>>>> > or
>>>>>>>>>> > earlier untouched.
>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>> > (or maybe what we *really* want is a repos-side symlink... but 
>>>>>>>>>> > we're
>>>>>>>>>> > running 1.7, not 1.9, and we'll appreciate solutions that work 
>>>>>>>>>> > within
>>>>>>>>>> > that limitation :))
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> We currently only support redirects above the repository level.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Redirections inside would be a completely different feature.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>OK... :(
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Why not just leave a top level folder with some readme?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Every time a podling graduates from the incubator, we do a rename:
>>>>>>>>>   svn mv ^/incubator/flex ^/flex
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>If we can return 301 whenever somebody does 'svn up' in a wc of
>>>>>>>>>^/incubator/flex, we'll save many users (2-4 projects every month)
>>>>>>>>>having to learn about 'svn relocate'.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think you
 should be able to redirect the normal webbrowser GETs though, as
>>>>>>>>>> I don't think we use those urls from our ra layers. (Or did we start 
>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>> them for HEAD requests in HTTPv2?)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>'svn ls $URL@peg' was affected by the redirects I had.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     Bert
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Daniel
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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