> ...and this is precisely the garden path that people followed to create > modern massive web frameworks.
indeed. Merb, when it began, was a 180 line of code masterpiece. somehow, it bloated up to Rails proportions and eventually merged with it. Camping is decent, but i found it uneditable (without breaking), too much metaprogramming insanity i wrote a small web daemon, and it is an email client, a media player,a directory browser on crack and a lot of other stuff. 2500 lines now, but it replaced every other app i ever used besides irssi and dwm pushed to these repos git://repo.or.cz/element.git http://repo.or.cz/w/element.git git://gitorious.org/element/element.git http://gitorious.org/element git://rubyforge.org/element.git http://element.rubyforge.org/ screenshots http://s574.photobucket.com/albums/ss187/ix9/hyper/ doc http://blog.whats-your.name/public/carmen.html to avoid bloat, existing paradigms are used wherever possible. filesystem for database, existing file formats and regex-based or library-based parser, to triple-streams of RDF converted to a per-request Graph model (using JSON/hash datastructure rather than inventin a new RDF::Graph class) minimalist clientside filtering tools exist, eg a 46 line replacement for the ~600K of code Simile Exhibit project: http://blog.whats-your.name/public/logex.png theres no weird auth crap, permissions handled via *nix - i run a webserver bound to 127.0.0.1 to read my own mail in ~/, and su to another dummy user to bind to 0.0.0.0:80 to serve up stuff publically.