Kurt H Maier dixit (2011-02-16, 19:28): > > Gentoo has a good balance in not being overengineered like Debian > > (dpkg-reconfigure and all that hell) > > bullshit, just look at emerge > > look at it
Why would I want to? I don't like Python. Still, by comparison to dpkg-reconfigure it's pretty sane. And it works. > > and having a decent quality > > package tree (unlike arch). > > what package tree? where do I download binary gentoo packages? oh, > that's right, I can't, because it's yet another thing the gentoo kids > couldn't figure out, despite decades of examples. Since it's a source-based distro obviously I'm calling packages something else. Did I ever say binary? > > It's also easy to compile software > > out-of-the-tree, as there are header files for everything in the > > system. > > that's not a benefit of gentoo, it's something that should be > standard. also, it's not a conscious design decision. it's an effect > of the braindead software distribution mechanism. Well, in practice *it is* a benefit of Gentoo, intended or not. Especially when you compare it to the -dev|-devel package mess of debian|redhat. So my argument stands despite the “braindead software distribution mechanism”. > > It's okay. Not great, neither a disaster (unless you trust the > > lack of argumentation of main Gentoo haters here). > > no, it is in fact a retarded disaster. Retarted seems to be your favourite word – it's a little overused, though. > source-only software distribution is completely stupid and wrong. Why? > the stupid package .tbz2 crap gentoo does have is too fragile and > worthless to be even worth mentioning. That's why nobody uses it. > if you want to see how this can be done correctly, look at freebsd > or openbsd, where software can be built -or- installed from > packages. I did look and I found an obscure mess of working or non-working makefiles. Somewhat akin to arch's AUR, on which we both seem to agree that it's a failure. > > And yeah, daemons are *not* started automatically after package > > installation. > > holy crap this totally changed my mind hold on while I recompile my > entire everything so I can get this killer feature Holy crap, this is just picking on Ubuntu/Debian which do that by default, as you've failed to notice because you were too occupied with indulging in your rich resources of irony. -- [a]
