Wondering what to do next, Justin, is it ok for me to push the related tag
to Github?

Should I trigger a [VOTE] thread?

Max

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 12:04 AM Maxime Beauchemin <
maximebeauche...@gmail.com> wrote:

> My svn is a bit rusty but I made some progress tonight:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/pull/7054
>
> Pushed some files to SVN
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/superset/0.31.0rc18/
>
> It's not intended to be an actual real RC, but it's a start.
>
> An early question is around RC numbers. Lyft & Airbnb have been doing a
> lot of back and forth on the release branch already and `0.31.0` is already
> up to rc18. I was internally debating what to do here, keeping the
> numbering scheme, or starting anew. Probably the right thing to do is to
> pick a number (say 0.32.0) and start clean at 0.32.0rc1, and stick to the
> Apache process, and use continuous numbers. I'm assuming the handoff is at
> 0.31.0rc18.
>
> Now people that would want to work on non-Apache release branches would do
> so in their fork, and in their own namespace. Maybe their local build
> instructions can become recipes for an upcoming release, but I suggest that
> this happens in forks from now on.
>
> Clearly this Apache process here with signing + svn commit + voting is
> more involved than the usual git cherry-pick + git tag + git push, so that
> should probably lead to less RCs (I can't imagine doing 18 votes around a
> single release).
>
> Not to mention the fact that the real complexity around releasing is
> raising and labeling issues with a proper target version, gather PRs,
> cherry-pick fixes and resolve conflicts if any. I'm hoping we can build
> tooling to help with all this. Hugh started something a while back, but
> there's lots to be done still in that area.
>
> Max
>
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 11:39 PM Maxime Beauchemin <
> maximebeauche...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Not officially approved yet, I think we should start a [DISCUSS] thread
>> and eventually [VOTE]
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 10:13 PM David Smith <dave.a.sm...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Max! Out of curiosity, has that release SIP-12 been approved yet?
>>> I
>>> have some thoughts but if it is already a done deal I'll wait until
>>> another
>>> time. :-)
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 9:53 PM Maxime Beauchemin <
>>> maximebeauche...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi all,
>>> >
>>> > I wanted to send an email explaining the current state of releases and
>>> > start a thread about what's ahead.
>>> >
>>> > Early on in the project lifecycle, I used to package releases and push
>>> to
>>> > Pypi without much process. I'd package internal releases internally for
>>> > Airbnb. We'd roll out to staging, stabilize the release, and launch in
>>> > production. After a some time without major issues and regressions, I'd
>>> > push a new release out to Pypi and make it available to the community.
>>> That
>>> > process worked ok when I reviewed or wrote most PRs and had a handle on
>>> > everything that was going on. The community has grown much, and clearly
>>> > that process has not been appropriate for quite some time now.
>>> >
>>> > Later on, we joined the Apache Software Foundation's incubator, and
>>> the ASF
>>> > has clear process around releases
>>> > <http://www.apache.org/dev/release-publishing.html>. As an ASF
>>> project, it
>>> > was not reasonable for us to push to Pypi until we sorted out the
>>> process
>>> > and followed the "Apache Way". Since `0.29` we've still been cutting
>>> > release branches and labeling "release candidates", but have refrained
>>> from
>>> > publishing to Pypi. Those release branches contain commits that have
>>> been
>>> > put into production at Lyft and/or Airbnb and elsewhere, but didn't
>>> meet
>>> > the ASF's standards, so could not be published as releases.
>>> >
>>> > Also with the growing community, we clearly need a more structured
>>> process
>>> > around releases. John Bodley wrote a solid SIP
>>> > <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/6131> proposing a
>>> > clear structure and process around releases, and details much of what
>>> the
>>> > ASF release process does not.
>>> >
>>> > All this to say, *I'm starting some work on our first ASF-approved
>>> source
>>> > code release*. For context, the ASF makes a distinction between "source
>>> > code releases" and "convenience releases". The former contains the
>>> source
>>> > code and build instructions, and the latter contains binaries and is
>>> made
>>> > available in places like Pypi (or Maven / npm / RubyGem / ...).
>>> >
>>> > While the source code release should be pretty straight forward, it's
>>> not
>>> > really, well, convenient. You can't just "pip install" that... The
>>> > convenience release on the other hand is great, but may require more
>>> work
>>> > and guidance from our mentors, ASF legal, license experts as the
>>> binaries
>>> > may contain our Javascript bundles (or maybe they don't?) but then
>>> have to
>>> > have a gigantic LICENSE.txt file detailing the licenses of the 500+
>>> > Javascript libs that have accumulated in our `package-lock.json` over
>>> time.
>>> > Or maybe we ship without the bundles and add a `superset compile`
>>> command
>>> > that does the fetching/build of the JS packages. Unclear to me. I'll
>>> need
>>> > help figuring this out. For context here's some work I did trying to
>>> > automate the LICENSE.txt creation
>>> > <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/pull/5801>
>>> >
>>> > Anyhow, wanted people to know what's up since it's been so long since
>>> the
>>> > last Pypi release, and give the opportunity for contributors to jump
>>> in and
>>> > help out.
>>> >
>>> > Let's get the [community] release process going!
>>> >
>>> > Max
>>> >
>>>
>>

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