Wondering what to do next, Justin, is it ok for me to push the related tag to Github?
Should I trigger a [VOTE] thread? Max On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 12:04 AM Maxime Beauchemin < maximebeauche...@gmail.com> wrote: > My svn is a bit rusty but I made some progress tonight: > https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/pull/7054 > > Pushed some files to SVN > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/superset/0.31.0rc18/ > > It's not intended to be an actual real RC, but it's a start. > > An early question is around RC numbers. Lyft & Airbnb have been doing a > lot of back and forth on the release branch already and `0.31.0` is already > up to rc18. I was internally debating what to do here, keeping the > numbering scheme, or starting anew. Probably the right thing to do is to > pick a number (say 0.32.0) and start clean at 0.32.0rc1, and stick to the > Apache process, and use continuous numbers. I'm assuming the handoff is at > 0.31.0rc18. > > Now people that would want to work on non-Apache release branches would do > so in their fork, and in their own namespace. Maybe their local build > instructions can become recipes for an upcoming release, but I suggest that > this happens in forks from now on. > > Clearly this Apache process here with signing + svn commit + voting is > more involved than the usual git cherry-pick + git tag + git push, so that > should probably lead to less RCs (I can't imagine doing 18 votes around a > single release). > > Not to mention the fact that the real complexity around releasing is > raising and labeling issues with a proper target version, gather PRs, > cherry-pick fixes and resolve conflicts if any. I'm hoping we can build > tooling to help with all this. Hugh started something a while back, but > there's lots to be done still in that area. > > Max > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 11:39 PM Maxime Beauchemin < > maximebeauche...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Not officially approved yet, I think we should start a [DISCUSS] thread >> and eventually [VOTE] >> >> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 10:13 PM David Smith <dave.a.sm...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Max! Out of curiosity, has that release SIP-12 been approved yet? >>> I >>> have some thoughts but if it is already a done deal I'll wait until >>> another >>> time. :-) >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 9:53 PM Maxime Beauchemin < >>> maximebeauche...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> > Hi all, >>> > >>> > I wanted to send an email explaining the current state of releases and >>> > start a thread about what's ahead. >>> > >>> > Early on in the project lifecycle, I used to package releases and push >>> to >>> > Pypi without much process. I'd package internal releases internally for >>> > Airbnb. We'd roll out to staging, stabilize the release, and launch in >>> > production. After a some time without major issues and regressions, I'd >>> > push a new release out to Pypi and make it available to the community. >>> That >>> > process worked ok when I reviewed or wrote most PRs and had a handle on >>> > everything that was going on. The community has grown much, and clearly >>> > that process has not been appropriate for quite some time now. >>> > >>> > Later on, we joined the Apache Software Foundation's incubator, and >>> the ASF >>> > has clear process around releases >>> > <http://www.apache.org/dev/release-publishing.html>. As an ASF >>> project, it >>> > was not reasonable for us to push to Pypi until we sorted out the >>> process >>> > and followed the "Apache Way". Since `0.29` we've still been cutting >>> > release branches and labeling "release candidates", but have refrained >>> from >>> > publishing to Pypi. Those release branches contain commits that have >>> been >>> > put into production at Lyft and/or Airbnb and elsewhere, but didn't >>> meet >>> > the ASF's standards, so could not be published as releases. >>> > >>> > Also with the growing community, we clearly need a more structured >>> process >>> > around releases. John Bodley wrote a solid SIP >>> > <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/issues/6131> proposing a >>> > clear structure and process around releases, and details much of what >>> the >>> > ASF release process does not. >>> > >>> > All this to say, *I'm starting some work on our first ASF-approved >>> source >>> > code release*. For context, the ASF makes a distinction between "source >>> > code releases" and "convenience releases". The former contains the >>> source >>> > code and build instructions, and the latter contains binaries and is >>> made >>> > available in places like Pypi (or Maven / npm / RubyGem / ...). >>> > >>> > While the source code release should be pretty straight forward, it's >>> not >>> > really, well, convenient. You can't just "pip install" that... The >>> > convenience release on the other hand is great, but may require more >>> work >>> > and guidance from our mentors, ASF legal, license experts as the >>> binaries >>> > may contain our Javascript bundles (or maybe they don't?) but then >>> have to >>> > have a gigantic LICENSE.txt file detailing the licenses of the 500+ >>> > Javascript libs that have accumulated in our `package-lock.json` over >>> time. >>> > Or maybe we ship without the bundles and add a `superset compile` >>> command >>> > that does the fetching/build of the JS packages. Unclear to me. I'll >>> need >>> > help figuring this out. For context here's some work I did trying to >>> > automate the LICENSE.txt creation >>> > <https://github.com/apache/incubator-superset/pull/5801> >>> > >>> > Anyhow, wanted people to know what's up since it's been so long since >>> the >>> > last Pypi release, and give the opportunity for contributors to jump >>> in and >>> > help out. >>> > >>> > Let's get the [community] release process going! >>> > >>> > Max >>> > >>> >>