Hi Oliver, *,

Oliver-Rainer Wittmann - Sun Germany - Software Engineer schrieb:
Title   : Direct cross references for headings and numbered paragraphs

Location: http://specs.openoffice.org/writer/numbering/Direct_Cross_References_to_Headings_and_Numberings.odt

Status  : preliminary

Abstract: A cross-reference to a heading or a numbered paragraph will be inserted directly into the current text document by choosing the heading respectively numbered paragraph. A list of all headings respectively all numbered paragraphs will be provided to the user to perform such a selection.

Comments:

Issues: i25072

thanks a lot for this specification, I'm really happy to see this feature implemented in Writer.

First: I think, that this feature is much more than a "short-cut" for the user. The biggest problems I see with manually defined cross-references is to keep track on the references, because you have to define a unique name for each reference. Atm the references are shown in alphabetical order, not in order of their appearance in the document. So many users started to name the references with beginning numbers - corresponding to the outline numbering. When they reorganize the chapters, the numbering changes, but certainly not the names of the references. I speak from my own experience, that it often ends in a chaos and many users prefer to set references "manually".

Some late (hopefully not too late) comments / questions:

- page 4, line 30: I agree, that in the fields dialog the entries Headings and Numbered paragraphs should be visible, even if the current text document doesn't contain any of them. This is important, that users see, that there is such a function. Is there a reason, why this is not done in the same way with tables and graphics?

- page 4, line 34: Scrollbars become visible in the fields dialog, if needed. I suppose, that the dialog is not big enough to show the headings in proper way, even if tooltips are implemented. I tried to visualize how it looks like if we have 4 or more levels (see screenshot http://projects.ooodev.org/qa/crossreferences.jpg). The feature will be used in large documents with many headings and levels. Is it possible to implement the dialog resizable?

- page 7, lines 85: Every bookmark will get a name with a unique number: Is the number unique only in each single document or could two documents have accidentally the same bookmark name? Avoiding this would be important, if cross references are used in subdocuments of master documents.

- page 7, line 88: Again master documents: Bookmarks are only internally used and bookmark names aren't shown in the user interface: Will there be a chance to find out the bookmark name? This would be helpful, if cross references are used in master documents between two subdocuments.

ATM we only have a workaround for using cross references between two subdocuments. In the first spec there was a section "future tasks" where cross references between master and subdocuments are mentioned. Is it possible to add the section future tasks to the new spec, too?

Regards,

Jacqueline

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