Rajith,

By the way, would you like to contribute a guide on clustering and its
limitations to synapse? (since you know the internals of axis2 clustering
stuff very well, I think it is good if you can contribute to this)

Thanks,
Ruwan

On Jan 30, 2008 7:56 PM, Rajith Attapattu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My bad, bcos I initially sent it to the wrong list :(.
>
> Rajith
>
>
> On Jan 30, 2008 4:30 AM, Asankha C. Perera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >  Guys
> >
> > Please do not CC: mails to the old synapse-dev@ mailing list.. The dev@
> > list now works fine and so you can all discontinue using the old lists.. :-)
> >
> >
> > thanks
> > asankha
> >
> >
> > Ruwan Linton wrote:
> >
> > Rajith,
> >
> >
> > > > > Yep I am in agreement. The reason I asked about clustering is bcos
> > > > > of the recent thread on session mgt and the need to have the
> > > > > session-mediator state replicated across the cluster (I hope I didn't
> > > > > misunderstand the requirments here). I was wondering if this sort of 
> > > > > thing
> > > > > is trivial to implement. Like can we replicate any mediator state if 
> > > > > we
> > > > > choose to in a trivial way?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yes it is, I think the session-mediator has to take the replication
> > > > in to account (i.e. another state full mediator for synapse :)). If
> > > > you are using the ConfigurationContext of axis2 (basically the whole 
> > > > context
> > > > hierarchy) to store the data (for example, the session data table mapped
> > > > using a session id) you just need to call ConfigurationContext.flush();
> > > > to replicate any data which has been changed after the last replication.
> > > > Additionally if you need to just replicate some of the properties of the
> > > > cfgCtx then you can call the the flush method with the property names 
> > > > (see
> > > > the clustering API for the exact signature of the method, I don't 
> > > > remember
> > > > that exactly).
> > > >
> > >
> > > Ruwan, once again thank you for the detailed answer. I really
> > > appreciate it. The reason behind the question "can we replicate any 
> > > mediator
> > > state if we choose to in a trivial way?" was to figure out if the current
> > > axis2 clustering support is sufficient.
> > >
> > > However we have to be careful when replicating mediator state
> > > especially when there are concurrent modifications on different nodes. 
> > > This
> > > can cause undesired affects and it is a limitation in our current 
> > > clustering
> > > implementation. So even for the session map, if two nodes modify the map
> > > concurrently we may have issues. This doc explains the limitations
> > > http://ws.apache.org/axis2/1_3/clustering-guide.html.
> > > So perhaps it's worthwhile to highlight these issues to synapse users
> > > who want to tap into the clustering support.
> > >
> >
> > Yes, we know this limitation is there. Even we have a JIRA for the
> > Throttle mediator [1]. This is because there is no distributed locking
> > mechanism in axis2-clustering implementation. But again we have not came
> > across any requirement to support that level of replication to happen from
> > users and most of them are fine with this error.
> >
> > [1] - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SYNAPSE-180
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ruwan
> >
> > --
> > Ruwan Linton
> > http://www.wso2.org - "Oxygenating the Web Services Platform"
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
>
> Rajith Attapattu
> Red Hat
> blog: http://rajith.2rlabs.com/
>



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Ruwan Linton
http://www.wso2.org - "Oxygenating the Web Services Platform"

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