Hi all,

unfortunately at the moment I'm still not able to help much with this 
discussion as I did not spend enough time to understand the coupling of Axis2 
and Synapse in detail.

Generally what Indika writes about the decoupling of transports and mediation 
engine makes definitely sense from my high level view.

The only point where I disagree is the startup of listeners. It seems 
impossible to me "to compensate" broken requests. 
In any system listeners should generally be the last to start and first to stop 
to avoid operating in an inconsistent state mostly combined with data loss and 
SLA violations.

Besides a note from Ruwan that task initialisation depends on listeners being 
started before, I see no real reason to start the listeners that early. I first 
trial to move them to a later point showed no problems for me (also I did not 
test tasks). 

I definitely find it important to clarify the whole startup/shutdown logic 
including the Axis2 module aspect, where I can't provide any useful feedback, 
before releasing 1.3.

Regards,
   Eric

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