Hi Francesco,

I would propose to close discussion with -1 for now without creating jira issue.
If community will see this refactoring necessary in the future we can reopen 
the discussion.
For sure we have actually more urgent and important things to process.
Do you agree?

Cheers,
Andrei.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Francesco Chicchiriccò [mailto:ilgro...@apache.org]
> Sent: Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2012 13:23
> To: dev@syncope.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Re: Extract syncope system/integration tests into
> separate project
> 
> On 12/12/2012 12:51, Colm O hEigeartaigh wrote:
> > Like Christian, I'm +0 to this idea. In other words, I think it's
> > probably a good idea, but don't have strong feelings either way ;-)
> >
> > The main advantage that I can see to doing this is that it may make core
> development a bit easier, by not having to run the integration tests all the
> time (incidentally: is there an easy way to skip the integration tests?).
> 
> Sorry if I am saying something obvious but:
>   * 'mvn clean package' will just stop before verify, hence not triggering the
> maven-failsafe-plugin
>   * 'mvn clean verify -DskipTests' will avoid integration test execution but 
> will
> start the environment (including Tomcat) anyway
> 
> Alternatively, you should comment the <executions> element of the cargo-
> maven2-plugin in core/pom.xml AND pass -DskipTests We can, of course,
> define a specific profile in core/pom.xml with these settings.
> 
> > Francesco, do you have any specific objections to this proposal, or is it 
> > just
> that you are not convinced of the arguments in favour?
> 
> I am
>   1. not convinced of some pros (speeding build time? With <3 mins?)
>   2. worried about fragmentation
>   3. not convinced of releasing Maven artifacts containing test classes as 
> main
> content: what's the 'src/test' directory or the 'tests'
> classifier for, then?
> 
> Anyway, if anyone can enlighten me about (2) and (3), I can be +0 as well.
> 
> > IMO it's not worth the hassle in arguing over this minor issue. If the "pro"
> argument I mentioned above is not agreed by everyone, then I propose we -
> 1 this proposal and move on.
> 
> --
> Francesco Chicchiriccò
> 
> ASF Member, Apache Syncope PMC chair, Apache Cocoon PMC Member
> http://people.apache.org/~ilgrosso/

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