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Romain Manni-Bucau
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2014-12-16 11:47 GMT+01:00 Anatole Tresch <[email protected]>:
> Hi Romain
>
> actually the question is legitimate. Basically the idea of property source
> is to have a minimal easy to implement interface. Configuration extends it
> with additional features. Originally I was thinking on combining property
> sources in different ways to at the end build a configuration decorator
> around it. Obviously from a user perspective this creates some confusion.
> On the other hand we might want to keep the basic builder that is able to
> work with property sources only (we can move it e.g. into the spi part).
> Additionally add the same thing dealing with Configuration as a
> ConfigurationBuilder to the API?
>
> WDYT?
>
>
> 2014-12-16 10:27 GMT+01:00 Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]>:
>>
>> Surely stupid question (sorry if I missed the reason) but why
>> PropertySourceBuilder and not ConfigurationBuilder?
>>
>>
>> Romain Manni-Bucau
>> @rmannibucau
>> http://www.tomitribe.com
>> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com
>> https://github.com/rmannibucau
>>
>>
>> 2014-12-16 9:59 GMT+01:00 Anatole Tresch <[email protected]>:
>> > Hi Oliver
>> >
>> > Configuration cfg = Configuration.current();
>> >
>> > MyTemplate template = Configuration.getConfiguration(template);
>> >
>> > MyAnnotatedClass cl = new MyAnnotatedClass();
>> > configuration.configure(cl);
>> >
>> > Environment env = Environment.current();
>> >
>> > *That is the main API and nothing more.* Hereby the Environment part even
>> > can be hidden to users and moved to the SPI part, if we like. What could
>> be
>> > simpler?
>> > The other aspects discussed basically can also be used from an API side,
>> > but typically things are more happening in the back side typically, when
>> > implementing ConfigurationProvider.
>> > *Users *will add and provide their configuration files or resources, when
>> > building their projects. Or manage a configuration database, but they
>> will
>> > NOT care about the inner workings. And this is good so!
>> >
>> > But also looking at the SPI side:
>> >
>> > Configuration config =
>> >
>> PropertySourceBuilder.of("MyPropertyConfig").addPaths("META-INF/myCOnfig.properties").build().toConfiguration();
>> >
>> > Do you want to read and search the classpath manually? I don't see much
>> > room to do it more simpler. Always remember: we design here for
>> enterprise
>> > environments as well. Thinking on system property level only will not be
>> > enough. Despite the functionality and flexibitiliy we have, I think the
>> API
>> > is really easy to use.
>> >
>> > Related to *Environment *I am currently preparing a follow up post,
>> since I
>> > think this is a part we can do more easily.
>> >
>> > Next in row I will catch up on the relationship between Configuration and
>> > Environment (the ConfigurationProvider). As a use case, I will use a Java
>> > EE application there, with classpath and domain file configuration.
>> >
>> > Adding an example subproject is definitively worth while. Some example
>> will
>> > be easily doable with JUnits. But more complex stuff, will require
>> running
>> > servers such as Jetty, Tomcat or even a EE container.
>> >
>> > Finally, and this is the upper most important for me: please *write
>> > explicitly, where things should be improved and why (be constructive)*. I
>> > am pleased to discuss your ideas.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Anatole
>> >
>> >
>> > 2014-12-16 8:55 GMT+01:00 Oliver B. Fischer <[email protected]>:
>> >>
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> IMHO the improvement of the bootstrapping process was a big step
>> forward.
>> >> But I still have some problems with the API. From my point of view we
>> miss
>> >> a simple entry point. Maybe I still haven't got and this might be my
>> fault,
>> >> but from an enduser perspective it is important to have an 'dumb' and
>> easy
>> >> to grasp API.
>> >>
>> >> Some weeks ago we startet with a discussion of use cases. I found this
>> >> approach very usefull and would like to continue with this approach. I
>> even
>> >> think we should add an examples/usecase module to Tamaya.
>> >>
>> >> A usecase should be writen as normal unit test. So we can ensure that
>> the
>> >> given example is working with the current implementation.
>> >>
>> >> Additionally each use case should be come with an good JavaDoc (via
>> >> Asciidoctor) documentation, which explains the usecase and the
>> mechanisms
>> >> behind it.
>> >>
>> >> WDYT?
>> >>
>> >> Oliver
>> >>
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>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > --
>> > *Anatole Tresch*
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>>
>
>
> --
> *Anatole Tresch*
> Java Engineer & Architect, JSR Spec Lead
> Glärnischweg 10
> CH - 8620 Wetzikon
>
> *Switzerland, Europe Zurich, GMT+1*
> *Twitter:  @atsticks*
> *Blogs: **http://javaremarkables.blogspot.ch/
> <http://javaremarkables.blogspot.ch/>*
>
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