1:30pm? Must have been am, at least in Central  Europe then.
I may not have been online all the time but was awake;-)

Ping me for another one, please if you can.



On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Anatole Tresch <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Romain/all
>
> see inline
>
> 2014-12-29 16:58 GMT+01:00 Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]>:
>
> > Hello Anatole,
> >
> > Tried to put all my thoughts regading current api modules:
> >
> > - Configuration:
> >
> > * looking it I feel like
> > org.apache.tamaya.Configuration#get(java.lang.String) should be the
> > only method of Configuration. I'm not sure about current(), still
> > think it shouldnt be here but in something like in
> > ConfigurationFactory but not in configuration itself - at least to be
> > aligned on common practises
>
>
> ​-1 for String only, type safe access is one of the most wanted feature in
> the community.
> -1 for putting it elsewhere: It is JDK 8 style to do so. On top it would
> require adding an additional artifact to the API, which is not necessary.
> Keepo the API as small as possible. If seee further use cases that require
> additional artifacts, we may reconsider this, but as of now I would let be
> where it is.
> ​
>
> * All "adapt-friendly"  methods should go elsewhere IMO but not the
> > core API - I guess it could be a mecanism used by all libs we'll add
> > on top of it but I wouldn't bind tamaya-core-api to it since today
> > when you integrate a config with an existing factory you already have
> > it and it just adds noise the core ATM - once again I dont say to drop
> > it but just to move it to another module for now.
> >
> ​-1 see above (one of the most wanted features). Additionally getXXX for
> JDK wrapper types is a quite common API style in SE. Perhaps Werner can
> correct me, if I am wrong here. Definitively it helps users, since they
> now, that for these types the have guaranteed adapter support and this is
> clearly visible from the API.
>
>
> > - PropertySource:
> >
> > * not sure I get name need, for a future gui?
> >
> ​Yes and no, Name allows traceability and enables dynamic access of the
> configuration components from outside, e.g. from managment functionality.
> Name could be the file name and additional info.
>
>
>
> > * think it misses something between get(String) and getProperties() -
> > == I agree with the TODO to replace getProperties() by
> > getPropertyKeys(). Wonder if we should get PropertySource and
> > ListablePropertySource instead of isScannable(). Last one would
> > implement Iterable<String> (for getPropertyKeys()). wdyt?
> >
> ​ I would prefer as well adding the keySet() method (it was part of my
> original proposal).
> -1 for Iterable<String>: I can do that easily from the key set, and I don't
> want to have references on my property source through whatever loops at
> runtime (possible risk of side effects).
> -1 for ListPropertySource. Most of the property sources, even remote ones,
> will be scannable. Using instanceof to check, if an instance is scannable
> or not, seems for me to much efforts, compared to having the small boolean
> method.
>
> - PropertySourceProvider:
> >
> > * a detail but shouldn't it be PropertySourcesProvider?
> >
> ​tbd (other opinions?). In Deltaspike it is called ConfigSourceProvider.
> For me it looks OK, also with the singular...​
>
>
>
> > - ServiceContext:
> >
> > * do we need all these default methods? I would do T
> > getTamayaService(Class) and List getUserServices(Class) maybe. This
> > can have an impact on the way it is loaded then - you dont want to
> > load some tamaya services from a lower classloader (SericeContext and
> > Configuratoin[Factory] ones typically). ATM getService() and
> > getServices() doesn't differentiate it and then we could combine both
> > in our usages and have issues later
> > ​.
> >
>
> ​We know there are things to improved here. This class was not yet analyzed
> in more detail​ last night (it was about 1:30 pm !). We will continue
> today...
>
> ​Anatole​
>
>
>
> > ​
> >
> >
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > @rmannibucau
> > http://www.tomitribe.com
> > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com
> > https://github.com/rmannibucau
> >
> >
> > 2014-12-29 16:11 GMT+01:00 Anatole Tresch <[email protected]>:
> > > Hi Oliver/all
> > >
> > > when you look at the api package you will find the API we have agreed
> on
> > > together last night. Lookt at it and feel free to discuss. We will meet
> > for
> > > another Hangout session this evening again.
> > >
> > > -Anatole
> > >
> > > 2014-12-28 20:21 GMT+01:00 Oliver B. Fischer <[email protected]
> >:
> > >
> > >> I hate timezones: 9 PM UTZ at Tuesday...
> > >>
> > >> Am 28.12.14 um 19:55 schrieb Werner Keil:
> > >>
> > >>> UTZ, so does it mean Midnight CET?
> > >>> And did "Thuesday" mean Tuesday or Thursday?;-)
> > >>>
> > >>> I can't say, if I'll be on a tablet then. This is a prepaid, but I
> may
> > top
> > >>> it up although I'm just here till the first week of Jan to use that.
> > >>> Other places I use there are people long after midnight in most
> cases,
> > but
> > >>> that depends on public transport in Vienna going that long...
> > >>>
> > >>> Everything but Wed night sounds OK, but even Tue and Thu people will
> > >>> already/still launch a lot of fireworks here;-O
> > >>>
> > >>> Werner
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 7:23 PM, Oliver B. Fischer <
> > >>> [email protected]
> > >>>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>> What's about Thuesday around 11pm UTZ?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Am 28.12.14 um 16:42 schrieb Mark Struberg:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> N Oliver B. Fischer
> > >>>> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
> > >>>> P +49 30 44793251
> > >>>> M +49 178 7903538
> > >>>> E [email protected]
> > >>>> S oliver.b.fischer
> > >>>> J [email protected]
> > >>>> X http://xing.to/obf
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >> --
> > >> N Oliver B. Fischer
> > >> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
> > >> P +49 30 44793251
> > >> M +49 178 7903538
> > >> E [email protected]
> > >> S oliver.b.fischer
> > >> J [email protected]
> > >> X http://xing.to/obf
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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>
>
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