Yeah and confirm but nthg opposed to have JUL integration with other
frameworks...

To be honest id like to have it in a common jar at apache. At least 3 or 4
apache projects forked them and much more could benefit from it (factory +
delegate logger impls)
Le 3 janv. 2015 23:25, "Mark Struberg" <[email protected]> a écrit :

> Romain, please see the mail from today in the morning with the topic
>
> '[DISCUSS] logging in core'
> That was way before I committed and pushed it.
>
> You even gave your +1 ;)
>
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
>
> > On Saturday, 3 January 2015, 23:04, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> > > I didnt say i like it just it doesnt add any mandatory dep and solves a
> > need. Issue with it is the same as what you did: no discussion - was
> surely
> > too early.
> >
> > Le 3 janv. 2015 22:54, "Mark Struberg" <[email protected]> a
> > écrit :
> >
> >>  Romain, explain me why you like the logging stuff? It introduces
> >>  dependencies to 3 other libs without adding anything. jul is totally
> enough
> >>  as everyone can route it to any other logging framework himself very
> > easily.
> >>
> >>  LieGrue,
> >>  strub
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  > On Saturday, 3 January 2015, 22:34, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> >>  [email protected]> wrote:
> >>  > > We didnt discuss it so +1 for removal - btw you removed legal
> > code as
> >>  well
> >>  > (logging stuff)
> >>  >
> >>  > Le 3 janv. 2015 22:32, "Werner Keil"
> > <[email protected]> a
> >>  > écrit :
> >>  >
> >>  >>  It's hard do judge by files that were already removed,
> > what's the
> >>  > evidence
> >>  >>  they should be from Spring?
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  If the effort can be overseen rather easily, I think I'm fine
> > with
> >>  >>  +1 for B
> >>  >>  but in future cases I really would like to know and learn why
> > such
> >>  files
> >>  >>  are an issue and which of them.
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  Werner
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 10:13 PM, Reinhard Sandtner <
> >>  >>  [email protected]> wrote:
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  > +1 for B
> >>  >>  >
> >>  >>  > keep it simple ;-)
> >>  >>  >
> >>  >>  > lg
> >>  >>  > reini
> >>  >>  >
> >>  >>  > > Am 03.01.2015 um 22:02 schrieb Mark Struberg
> >>  > <[email protected]>:
> >>  >>  > >
> >>  >>  > > As you might have read in the previous mail I did
> > remove some
> >>  > code
> >>  >>  which
> >>  >>  > has no clean IP provenance. The code seems to have been
> > taken from
> >>  the
> >>  >>  > Spring project. Although it is ALv2 and so the license is
> > fine we
> >>  > still
> >>  >>  > don't own the copyright and there was no IP check done
> > for this
> >>  > code.
> >>  >>  > >
> >>  >>  > > This all would be resolvable by going into the Spring
> > SCM
> >>  > history,
> >>  >>  check
> >>  >>  > who wrote the code parts and patches, make sure it was not
> > e.g. taken
> >>  >>  from
> >>  >>  > a GPL source, etc. After that we would need to ask Spring
> > for a code
> >>  >>  grant.
> >>  >>  > >
> >>  >>  > >
> >>  >>  > > All this is doable but a certain amount of work. And
> > thus I
> >>  > really
> >>  >>  > suggest to do this only if we really need that code.
> >>  >>  > >
> >>  >>  > > 1.) do we really need those code parts? Do we need most
> > of the
> >>  >>  > spring-ant integration? What for?
> >>  >>  > > 2.) Wouldn't it be easier to write the
> > functionality
> >>  > ourselves and be
> >>  >>  > able to only implement the pieces we really need? Currently
> > all we
> >>  > need
> >>  >>  is
> >>  >>  > ClassLoader.getResources() and be done.
> >>  >>  > >
> >>  >>  > > Thus please VOTE on
> >>  >>  > >
> >>  >>  > >
> >>  >>  > > A.) Go through the IP clearing and try to get the
> > rights for the
> >>  > Spring
> >>  >>  > code
> >>  >>  > >
> >>  >>  > > B.) Simply write those pieces ourselves. It's no
> > rocket
> >>  > science,
> >>  >>  really!
> >>  >>  > >
> >>  >>  > >
> >>  >>  > > +1 for B from me.
> >>  >>  > >
> >>  >>  > >
> >>  >>  > > LieGrue,
> >>  >>  > > strub
> >>  >>  >
> >>  >>  >
> >>  >>
> >>  >
> >>
> >
>

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