Hi Oliver!
I am 100% sure that Tamaya in it's current shape is VERY easy to use.
For an easy project you simply have to add a
META-INF/javaconfiguration.properties file and be done.
User can still 'override' (higher ordinal) this via environment and -D settings
very easily. For all those cases you don't even need to touch any SPI at all!
For getting your configured values you simply use
Configuration.current().get("myapp.mykey"); and be done. There is really not
anything else needed.
LieGrue,
strub
> On Wednesday, 7 January 2015, 8:46, Oliver B. Fischer
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > In this point I disagree. One of the original ideas was to issue and JSR
> for an configuration API for Java SE and Java EE.
>
> If we can't handle the easy use cases there is no need for Tamaya as an
> Java SE library. Because it would mean the following:
>
> User: "I would like to configure my systems. Can I use Tamaya for
> that?"
> We: "Yes, but only if you have a complicated system."
> User: "WTF? Why?"
> We: "Such easy things you can handle by your own."
> User: "WTF! I will tell every one not to use this heavy crap."
> EOS (End of story)
>
> Guys, you can't tell me that Tamaya will be never the right solution for
> a company as the one I am working for with millions of customers and
> around 100 different services.
>
> Oliver
>
> Am 07.01.15 um 00:38 schrieb Anatole Tresch:
>> Hi Oliver
>> You dont need Tamaya fir that trivial cases. You can write that on your own
> in 20 locs. Tamaya gives you an api and spi for access. If you have a company
> that is always using this 2 files, you implement the spi and deploy with
> every
> app. But honestly even in each medium sizef cli tool complexity is higher.
> When
> you then think on config your 2000 apps and being able to have a common
> config
> system in place which is still very flexible then you need tamaya.
>>
>> Ok?
>>
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>>> Am 07.01.2015 um 00:27 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau
> <[email protected]>:
>>>
>>> +1 should be fully hidden IMO.
>>>
>>> What was the original need Oliver? Seems you reversed the dependency
> not
>>> sure why.
>>> Le 6 janv. 2015 23:58, "Oliver B. Fischer"
> <[email protected]> a
>>> écrit :
>>>
>>>> I think a lot of user will use ConfigurationContext to configure
> their
>>>> configuration system. I think it is easier to put some files into
> the
>>>> filesystem and to read this files then to deal with the SPI stuff.
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes I have the impression that many of us have a very biased
> view on
>>>> configuration by coming from a Java EE environment. This is ok and
> I miss
>>>> my GlassFish sometimes but think of dumb programmer who wants to
> read a
>>>> file simply from /etc/service/config.ext and override these
> defaults with
>>>> ~/.config.ext and so on.
>>>>
>>>> Oliver
>>>>
>>>>> Am 06.01.15 um 23:47 schrieb Reinhard Sandtner:
>>>>>
>>>>> my first idea was to add the method getContext() to
> Configuration but i
>>>>> think if someone is able to use the SPI, they can do it on
> their own.
>>>>> i think a 'normal‘ user should not see the
> configurationContext at all
>>>>>
>>>>> lg
>>>>> reini
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 06.01.2015 um 23:43 schrieb Oliver B. Fischer <
>>>>>> [email protected]>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Guys, I missed somehow how to get a Configuration from the
>>>>>> ConfigurationContext.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW: I will add this method to ConfigurationContext:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> public static ConfigurationContext current(){
>>>>>> return ServiceContext.getInstance().getService(
>>>>>> ConfigurationContext.class).get();
>>>>>> }
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oliver
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>
>
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