See inline...

2015-02-24 13:39 GMT+01:00 Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]>:

> Ok so ConfigurationContextUpdates is "part of the SPI" thanks to
> ConfigurationContext itself, am I right?
>
​Yep. Also adding property sources already was there...
​



> That said seeing it I really think we should just use a builder where
> custom extensions (ServiceLoader in SE, events in CDI, getBeanOfType
> in Spring) can add/remove components during "build" phase.
>

​The problem is that configuration changes during runtime exactly change
these things. E.g.

   - ​1) ​
   a file could be removed -> the according propertysource
   ​(​
   s
   ​)​
   must be removed.
   - ​2) a file could be added -> additional property source(s) must be
   registered.​

   - 3) a file was updated -> coud simply be an update of the
   propertysource, but it could also mean that the ordinal has been changed,
   so the whole chain must be reordered. In case a file produces entries with
   different ordinals, multiple propertysources may be affected, mappping
   logically to 1 and 2 again.

​So if we agree (and many people want that) that configuration can change
during runtime, we must allow this. ​
If we want to prevent that we can simply never return a
ConfigurationContextUpdate instance, everything will stay read-only.
Breaking things basically is still a question of adding good default
entries. Of course, if someone also removes the defaults, things may get
out of order, but I assume this is not a common case...

Doing everything with a bulder is possible. We would then add according
methods

ConfigurationContextBuilder getBuilder();
void apply(ConfigurationContext context);

to the ConfigurationContext. WDYT?



> Why I worry about it is this kind of thing:
>
> 1) start a context
> 2) start to use the config
> 3) wow this is awesome
> 4) a part of the app modify it
> 5) oops 2 and 3 are broken
>
> builder creating immutable objects sounds far better to me (by itself,
> then you can still mutate sources/converters if that's what you want
> but that's not what we provide)
>
>
>
>
>
> Romain Manni-Bucau
> @rmannibucau
> http://www.tomitribe.com
> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com
> https://github.com/rmannibucau
>
>
> 2015-02-24 13:24 GMT+01:00 Anatole Tresch <[email protected]>:
> > Hi Roamin
> >
> > not sure, if I get your concerns:
> >
> > - the ConfigurationContext already is part of the current SPI.
> >
> > - the only change is that I extracted the methods for changing the
> context
> > into a separate process step/artifact with a fluent API style to have
> more
> > control on changes applied. And I added additional functions, so I also
> can
> > remove PropertySources, and have similar mechanisms for filters and the
> > other aspects. From what I wanted to achieve, currently only
> PropertySource
> > management per se, would be enough. But for me it would look somehow
> > weired, if I can change PropertySources, but not the rest...
> >
> > Anatole
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2015-02-24 11:57 GMT+01:00 Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]>:
> >
> >> Hmm
> >>
> >> I have to admit I'm a bit lost, is the SPI useful then? Do we need
> >> another spi? Maybe to start we shouldnt use any spi then move to spi
> >> once API is finished
> >>
> >> That said this update new class looks like a builder to get context
> >> immutable which sounds more common and easier to understand to me
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Romain Manni-Bucau
> >> @rmannibucau
> >> http://www.tomitribe.com
> >> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com
> >> https://github.com/rmannibucau
> >>
> >>
> >> 2015-02-24 10:30 GMT+01:00 Anatole Tresch <[email protected]>:
> >> > Hi all
> >> >
> >> > I would like to propose a small but effective change in the
> >> > ConfigurationContext SPI (the explanation why comes later in this
> email).
> >> > Currently
> >> > it is defined as:
> >> >
> >> > *public interface *ConfigurationContext {
> >> >
> >> > *void *addPropertySources(PropertySource... propertySourcesToAdd);
> >> > List<PropertySource> getPropertySources();
> >> > <T> *void *addPropertyConverter(TypeLiteral<T> typeToConvert,
> >> > PropertyConverter<T> propertyConverter);
> >> > <T> List<PropertyConverter<T>> getPropertyConverters(TypeLiteral<T>
> >> type);
> >> > List<PropertyFilter> getPropertyFilters();
> >> > PropertyValueCombinationPolicy getPropertyValueCombinationPolicy();
> >> >
> >> > }
> >> >
> >> > My proposal is add an additional ConfigurationContextUpdates
> interface,
> >> > that allows to apply multiple changes to a ConfigurationContext and
> >> finally
> >> > apply the changes, once they are done. So the interface would be
> changed
> >> as
> >> > follows:
> >> >
> >> > *public interface *ConfigurationContext {
> >> >
> >> > List<PropertySource> getPropertySources();
> >> > <T> List<PropertyConverter<T>> getPropertyConverters(TypeLiteral<T>
> >> type);
> >> > List<PropertyFilter> getPropertyFilters();
> >> > PropertyValueCombinationPolicy getPropertyValueCombinationPolicy();
> >> >
> >> > // moved methods:
> >> > *// void *addPropertySources(PropertySource... propertySourcesToAdd);
> >> > // <T> *void *addPropertyConverter(TypeLiteral<T> typeToConvert,
> >> > //                              PropertyConverter<T>
> propertyConverter);
> >> > *ConfigurationContextUpdates startUpdate(); // new*
> >> >
> >> > }
> >> >
> >> > ConfigurationContextUpdates would be defined as follows:
> >> >
> >> > *public interface *ConfigurationContextUpdates {
> >> >
> >> >     ConfigurationContext getContext();
> >> >
> >> >     *default *ConfigurationContextUpdates
> >> > addPropertySources(PropertySource... propertySourcesToAdd);
> >> >     ConfigurationContextUpdates
> >> > addPropertySources(Collection<PropertySource> propertySourcesToAdd);
> >> >     *default *ConfigurationContextUpdates
> >> > removePropertySources(PropertySource... propertySourcesToRemove);
> >> >     ConfigurationContextUpdates
> >> > removePropertySources(Collection<PropertySource>
> >> propertySourcesToRemove);
> >> > *    default *ConfigurationContextUpdates
> >> > removePropertySources(Predicate<PropertySource> selector);
> >> >
> >> >     *default *ConfigurationContextUpdates
> >> > addPropertyFilters(PropertyFilter... filters);
> >> >     ConfigurationContextUpdates
> >> > addPropertyFilters(Collection<PropertyFilter> filters);
> >> >     *default *ConfigurationContextUpdates
> >> > removePropertyFilters(PropertyFilter... filters);
> >> >     *default *ConfigurationContextUpdates
> >> > removePropertyFilters(Predicate<PropertyFilter> selector);
> >> >     ConfigurationContextUpdates
> >> > removePropertyFilters(Collection<PropertyFilter> filters);
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >     <T> ConfigurationContextUpdates
> addPropertyConverter(TypeLiteral<T>
> >> > typeToConvert,
> >> >
> >> >  PropertyConverter<T> propertyConverter);
> >> >     *default *ConfigurationContextUpdates
> >> > removePropertyConverters(PropertyConverter<?>... converters);
> >> >     ConfigurationContextUpdates
> >> > removePropertyConverters(Collection<PropertyConverter<?>> converters);
> >> >
> >> >     ConfigurationContextUpdates
> >> > setPropertyValueCombinationPolicy(PropertyValueCombinationPolicy
> policy);
> >> >
> >> >     /**
> >> >      * Apply all the changes to the underlying context.
> >> >      * @throws java.lang.IllegalStateException if the operation is
> called
> >> > multiple times, or another update was already
> >> >      * applied before.
> >> >      */
> >> >     *void *apply();
> >> > }
> >> >
> >> > Now here are the reasons, why I think this makes sense:
> >> >
> >> >    - it is much more easy to lock/synchronize the current state of a
> >> >    ConfigurationContext, since only for the time where the apply() is
> >> >    running special synchronization logi
> >> >    - a configuration context can not support being mutable at all by
> >> simply
> >> >    throwing a UnsupportedMethodException, when startUpdate() is
> called.
> >> >    - Changing a ConfigurationContext, e.g. for testing can now be as
> >> >    flexible as using CDIUnit for CDI. The regarding test support
> >> flexibility
> >> >    is easy to achieve.
> >> >    - *But most of all (and that was the reason, why I started to
> think on
> >> >    this enhancements), we can implement automatic configuration
> updates,
> >> e.g.
> >> >    based on new files added to a configuration directory or added to a
> >> >    database table, by implementing the mechanism as part of an "event"
> >> module.
> >> >    The event listener can determine from the change event the affected
> >> >    PropertySource, compare with the PropertySource already registered
> in
> >> the
> >> >    context(s) and remove/add/update new PropertySources as needed for
> the
> >> >    affected contexts. *This module currently is in development, and as
> >> soon
> >> >    as we would agree on this proposal I can add (and test it before),
> so
> >> we
> >> >    have an initial version for supporting configuration updates.
> >> >
> >> > WDYT?
> >> >
> >> > Anatole
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > *Anatole Tresch*
> > Java Engineer & Architect, JSR Spec Lead
> > Glärnischweg 10
> > CH - 8620 Wetzikon
> >
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>



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Glärnischweg 10
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