Hehe.. Sounds awesome :)

The only thing I would add in is that there may be many instances when
people want to present exceptions to end users of their applications when
not in a debug console. It's this particular kind of implementation that I
would like to make sure we cover. Some people may be ok with a FloatingPane
popping up, some may want a generic message only being displayed in a
particular div element, etc...

(In addition to all of the cool stuff you have going on with the debug
console. )

On 5/14/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Completely agree on this. A cool debug console could be enough
for the 4.1alpha + when you see the power of the debug console,
you just can't stop getting more and more ideas.
My current ones include merging exception window into debug console
and having multiple tabs for:
- dojo and js debug messages + js evaluation
- exceptions
- live ognl evaluation

i'll be starting with ContentPane + TaskBar later today.

From Jesse Kuhnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> P.S. I was still in the middle of doing the tacos-ish ajax xml layer,
but
> was hoping to hit you up for help on figuring out exception handling +
your
> very cool debug console.
>
> I am not happy at all with the current exception window that tacos pops
up
> (could be the shadowed border thing that the floating pane is doing),
but
> either way think that we could definitely benefit from a full featured
> exception presenting sort of widget. There are a lot more things we
could
> help to show the state of and present better than just dumb html output.
> (your console is already doing some of these cool things)
>
> My hope was that PropertySelection would help get the initial render
layer
> built, while the debug console and exception handling would help to
flesh
> out the majority of remaining functionality(ie effects / widget building
/
> js package building system / etc...). I'd really like to spend a large
> portion of time on the debug console + exception widgets so that they
are as
> functional and useful as possible.
>
> Other than linking / form behaviour I don't care at all if the initial
> 4.1alpha release has only this functionality at a minimum. (The rest
> of the
> components / widgets should be very fast and easy to throw in if we have
> properly setup the API to do so.)
>
> What do you think?
>
> On 5/14/06, Jesse Kuhnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > If I'm correct in my thinking, disabling cookies is effectively equal
to
> > disabling sessions. Since assets and other similar items require a
valid
> > session to be included (ie protected or private assets, which dojo
> > definitely is ) it makes sense to me that this broke things.
> >
> >
> > On 5/14/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yea, i know, saw your commits yesterday and tried it at once.
> > > It's cool, I'll start adding widgets this week.
> > > Anyway, then i somehow disabled cookies and this breaks dojo's
> > > inclusion by Tapestry. I looked into it a bit and then sent the
> > > 'Stateless Services are url encoded.Why?' email to this list.
> > > Any comments on it?
> > >
> > > From Jesse Kuhnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >
> > > > Hey Andreas,
> > > >
> > > > This is fixed now. The original problem was with me having
> > > debugAtAllCosts
> > > > turned on. (something I must've enabled in some sort of desperate
> > > action to
> > > > get something else working ;) )
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 5/11/06, Jesse Kuhnert < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hmm... I haven't actually run the app in a couple days (been
writing
> > > unit
> > > > > tests only) . When svn comes back online I'll take a look. (The
> > > > > autocompleter is pretty sexy btw :) )
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 5/11/06, Andreas Andreou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The version that comes closest to working is ... the one we
have
> > > in
> > > > > > tapestry trunk!
> > > > > > Both dojo 0.3 and dojo trunk complain with
> > > > > > DEBUG: no tag handler registed for type: dojo:combobox
> > > > > > (i'm just trying to see the autocompleter in action)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anyway, i'll go finish tacos issues these days
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jesse Kuhnert wrote:
> > > > > > > Definitely dojo trunk. The 0.3 release won't be enough
either
> > > because
> > > > > > > of a
> > > > > > > ~bug~ with dojo.uri.Uri() and how it handles munging
together
> > > urls to
> > > > > > > resolve widget resources. (ie templateCssPath,
templateHtmlPath
> > > ) .
> > > > > > That,
> > > > > > > and your baseTag bug.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When 0.3 comes out (tomorrow), I'll start pestering them for
> > > fixes to
> > > > > > > these
> > > > > > > core items for tapestry. (bugs have been logged of course)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 5/9/06, Andreas Andreou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Jesse Kuhnert wrote:
> > > > > > >> > It's been a huge headache for me. I'm still not sure of
the
> > > best
> > > > > > >> overall
> > > > > > >> > solution.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > For me, I've been manually running the ant target
"copy-libs"
> > > from
> > > > > > >> > framework/src/js when I want to run the demo application
to
> > > test
> > > > > > them.
> > > > > > >> > (TimeTracker)  I haven't even actually been using the
dojo
> > > build
> > > > > > >> that's
> > > > > > >> > checked in.
> > > > > > >> Aha, that's why the autocompleter currently breaks on the
> > > client :)
> > > > > > >> But I love the ajax responses= {"0":"English","1":"French"}
> > > > > > >> So, for dojo, you'd advice tacos trunk or dojo trunk?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > (mostly because it's such a verbose effort to update them
and
> > > > > > >> > commit the changes to svn)
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Any ideas on how to improve this process would be
> > > appreciated.
> > > > > > >> That's a tough one... i can't think of any better
alternatives.
> > > > > > >> I guess with the 0.3 release it'll sort of stabilize.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > On 5/9/06, Andreas Andreou < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >> With the svn files as is,
> > > > org.apache.tapestry.html.dojo(javascript)
> > > > > > >> >> files
> > > > > > >> >> are getting compiled directly in /bin. This is happening
> > > because
> > > > > > >> >> org/apache/tapestry/html/dojo is defined as src folder.
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >> However, they should really end up in
> > > > > > >> >> /bin/org/apache/tapestry/html/dojo.
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >> So, I simply removed org/apache/tapestry/html/dojo from
> > > being src
> > > > > > >> >> folder, but i'm just wondering, how are you guys using
this?
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >
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> > > > > > >> >
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