Howard, With all due respect, and I do sincerely respect what you have done here;
"Howard Lewis Ship" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 28/07/2006 23:12:19: > In the long view of Tapestry, the future users vastly outnumber the > current users. Tapestry 5 is targetting that group of users. This is a very difficult message to take on board for people who, in good failt, made a significant investment in Tapestry 3 or 4. > Existing applications coded to Tapestry 4 ... well, leave them on > Tapestry 4! Many users prefer to stay on Tapestry 3. This would *only* be acceptable if it could be seen that the community was supporting the earlier versions, it is not clear that this is happening for Tapestry 3. > They don't want to face the upgrade from 3 to 4 if their application is working. Can't afford to. <snip/> > Having an easy upgrade path from Tapestry 4 to 5 is a near > insurmountable challenge. But IMHO shifting the burden onto your loyal existing users is a big PR mistake. > people to give back a little something in kind. .. > people HELP PUBLICIZE TAPESTRY. It would be nice to, but when we are faced with such rapid revolutionalry change we are naturally cautious about putting our names to something whose direction we cannot predict. You need us early adopters to evangelise, yet it appears from the first statement I quote that you aren't interested in making concesions to the needs of current users c.f. new adopters. > How many of you have written a white paper on your Tapestry > experience? Howard, we would have been happy to present our Tap3 case study at Apachecon had it not been rendered obsolete before we'd even finished the project by the introduction of Tapestry 4 and now the announcements about Tap 5. I won't in good faith tell people how good Tap3 is if I know they will have a big problem ahead to upgrade to Tap4 when it is released. > Tapestry has its technical chops and its community. So if > you are looking for reasons why Tapestry doesn't have the level of > adoption you think it should have, don't look at the compatibility > straw man. Look to yourself and what you have done to support > Tapestry. Thats another real good way to ensure our continued support, blame us and slag us off for trying to raise the issues which are really causeing us real pain and costs, and which we would not have if we moved to a competing product. Tapestry benefited from being first to market of the new generation of frameworks, don't throw that advantage away. d. ******************************************************************************************************* The information in this e-mail is confidential and for use by the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient please delete the message from your computer. You may not copy or forward it or use or disclose its contents to any other person. As Internet communications are capable of data corruption Student Loans Company Limited does not accept any responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent. For this reason it may be inappropriate to rely on advice or opinions contained in an e-mail without obtaining written confirmation of it. Neither Student Loans Company Limited or the sender accepts any liability or responsibility for viruses as it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any). Opinions and views expressed in this e-mail are those of the sender and may not reflect the opinions and views of The Student Loans Company Limited. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ******************************************************************************************************** --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
