Re: tap5 + doctypes

Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:28:29 -0800 

Nice. I was just starting to play around with that a bit.
Presumably, some people are going to be throwing the html doctypes into pages/components. I've been toying with the html DTD's, but there's a whole lot of sgml goodness in there, beyond just sgml comments. Since the xhtml strict, transitional, and frameset DTD's are already the xml versions of the HTML DTD's, and since tapestry is already requiring well-formed xml, what do you think of mapping the html doctypes onto the xhtml doctypes so that templates with html doctypes will still parse? 

Robert

On Mar 14, 2007, at 3/1411:01 PM , D&J Gredler wrote:


I've taken a pass at the packaged DTDs:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-1353


On 3/14/07, D&J Gredler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Might be cool, might not... now's the time to try, though, while  
things

are still in flux :-)


Either way, providing packaged DTDs would be nice... you basically  
can't

develop offline as things stand right now.


On 3/14/07, Howard Lewis Ship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I've been thinking of packaging common XHTML DTDs with the JARs to

> prevent unnecessary nettwork access.  Perhaps we could  
substitute an

> XML version of the HTML SGML DTD?
>
> On 3/14/07, Robert Zeigler < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Sounds reasonable, including first wins.
> >
> > What about the fact that the SAX parser chokes on the html
> > transitional & strict dtd's due to the sgml-style comments within
> > element definitions?
> >
> > Robert
> >
> > On Mar 14, 2007, at 3/1411:37 AM , Howard Lewis Ship wrote:
> >
> > > I can see this as a new type of token that propogates up.
> > >

> > > Using LexicalHandler.startDTD(), we can know if a template  
has a <!

> > > DOCTYPE>.

> > > We could record this  data in a special token, and make some  
changes
> > > to the MarkupWriter and Document classes to accomidate the  
token.

> > >
> > > The problem is: any and every template for a page may contain a

> > > DOCTYPE.  How do we know which to use?  What if there's a  
conflict?

> > >
> > > I guess it'll be "first wins".  So if the page template has a
> doctype,
> > > that will be explicit. In a typical application with a Layout
> > > component (aka a "Border"), the Layout will likely contain a
> > > <!DOCTYPE> (along with <html>, etc.).
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/14/07, Robert Zeigler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> Howard,
> > >>

> > >> What are your thoughts on how to get doctypes from  
templates into

> the

> > >> rendered output stream? Put another way, what's preventing  
this

> from
> > >> happening at the moment? This is something I'm needing at the
> moment,
> > >> so I'd be happy to jump in and and take care of this todo...
> > >>
> > >> Robert
> > >>
> > >>

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