I'm for both minimal and maximal archetype,
minimal for those who already know what they want and how to use it.
maximal for those wanting to try or evaluate the framework.

there definitely are users that haven't tried spring or hibernate
(or had hibernate, but not hiberante annotations)

many things can go wrong when you try a new framework,
and inevitably try to do thing in way not meant to be done for that
particular framework.


Davor Hrg

On 6/18/07, Massimo Lusetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 6/16/07, Howard Lewis Ship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm beginning to learn towards the idea that quickstart should evolve
> to be the "maximal" Tapestry template (and perhaps we add a "minimal"
> archetype for bare-bones).
>
> Thoughts?

To me it seems obvious that this would be a win in T5 popularity, it
makes it more a rails-like framework and nowadays this is a top word
in the web app development, but i cannot evaluate the effort needed
achieving this.

It's true that deleting thing is much easier then adding (at least in
the correct way) but having a bunch of stuff which you don't actually
need (hibernate or spring or upload or what else will come out) and
having to delete it without conscience can cause you the same trouble
as to have to add them. You've to know how it works.
T5 is already doing a great job in making it easy to add a 'feature',
just drop the jar in and you're fine, plus if the jar need some
configuration it needs for the external libraries it is integrating
within T5 not for itself, so basically it is the same of saying: Here
are you're needed libraries, configure as you wish. And it seems
obvious that if i want to use Hibernate or Spring or what else I've to
know how it works and how to configure it.

That to say that the current behaviour of T5 modules with the doc is
enough for me, if the effort of building the "maximal template" could
be directed somewhere else ;)

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Massimo
http://meridio.blogspot.com

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