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Howard M. Lewis Ship commented on TAPESTRY-2339:
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FYI: This problem manifested itself only once I started using   
@ManyToOne(fetch = FetchType.LAZY) for a large number of relationships.
  

> The automatic ValueEncoder for Hibernate entities will sometimes encode an 
> entity as null (rather than its primary key)
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>                 Key: TAPESTRY-2339
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-2339
>             Project: Tapestry
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: tapestry-hibernate
>    Affects Versions: 5.0.11
>            Reporter: Howard M. Lewis Ship
>            Assignee: Howard M. Lewis Ship
>            Priority: Critical
>             Fix For: 5.0.12
>
>
> Still trying to figure out under which circumstances this can occur.  It may 
> be a Hibernate problem.

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