I run on an Intel Mac, with Java 1.5.0_16 and I don't see this
problem.  I'll need more details on how you provoked it.

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Steven Woolley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If only I could... my development box is a ppc mac which doesn't have a 1.6
> jvm.  I can upgrade it on the deployment server, but Tapestry does support
> 1.5 so upgrading probably isn't the final solution.Steve
>
> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 4:47 AM, Andy Pahne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>>
>> Please update your Java to at least 1.6.10 and then try to reproduce. I
>> think, that this will solve your problem.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> Steven Woolley schrieb:
>>
>>  I was seeing a deadlock pretty frequently with 5.0.11 took the plunge to
>>> finally upgrade to 5.0.17 and lo and behold:  deadlock!
>>>
>>>
>>> Let me know what else you need! (this is on a macbook pro):
>>>
>>>
>>> java version "1.5.0_16"
>>>
>>> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_16-b06-284)
>>>
>>> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_16-133, mixed mode, sharing)
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>> Found one Java-level deadlock:
>>>
>>> =============================
>>>
>>> "SocketListener0-2":
>>>
>>>  waiting to lock monitor 0x00818100 (object 0x0a38e190, a
>>>
>>> org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.ComponentInstantiatorSourceImpl$PackageAwareLoader),
>>>
>>>  which is held by "SocketListener0-1"
>>>
>>> "SocketListener0-1":
>>>
>>>  waiting to lock monitor 0x00818028 (object 0x0e52d558, a
>>> java.lang.String),
>>>
>>>  which is held by "SocketListener0-2"
>>>
>>>
>>> Java stack information for the threads listed above:
>>>
>>> ===================================================
>>>
>>> "SocketListener0-2":
>>>
>>> at java.lang.ClassLoader.getDefaultDomain(ClassLoader.java:1638)
>>>
>>> - waiting to lock <0x0a38e190> (a
>>>
>>> org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.ComponentInstantiatorSourceImpl$PackageAwareLoader)
>>>
>>> at java.lang.ClassLoader.preDefineClass(ClassLoader.java:538)
>>>
>>> at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:669)
>>>
>>> at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:520)
>>>
>>> at javassist.Loader.findClass(Loader.java:379)
>>>
>>> at
>>>
>>> org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.ComponentInstantiatorSourceImpl$PackageAwareLoader.findClass(
>>> ComponentInstantiatorSourceImpl.java:92)
>>>
>>> at javassist.Loader.loadClass(Loader.java:311)
>>>
>>> - locked <0x0e52d558> (a java.lang.String)
>>>
>>> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:251)
>>>
>>> at
>>>
>>> org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.ComponentInstantiatorSourceImpl.findClass(
>>> ComponentInstantiatorSourceImpl.java:292)
>>>
>>> at
>>>
>>> org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.ComponentInstantiatorSourceImpl.findInstantiator(
>>> ComponentInstantiatorSourceImpl.java:272)
>>>
>>> - locked <0x066253e8> (a
>>> org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.ComponentInstantiatorSourceImpl)
>>>
>>> at
>>>
>>> $ComponentInstantiatorSource_11dfbc0c2a7.findInstantiator($ComponentInstantiatorSource_11dfbc0c2a7.java)
>>>
>>> at
>>>
>>> org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.PageElementFactoryImpl.newRootComponentElement(
>>> PageElementFactoryImpl.java:262)
>>>
>>> at
>>>
>>> $PageElementFactory_11dfbc0c2e1.newRootComponentElement($PageElementFactory_11dfbc0c2e1.java)
>>>
>>> at
>>>
>>> org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.PageLoaderProcessor.loadRootComponent(
>>> PageLoaderProcessor.java:412)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.PageLoaderProcessor.loadPage(
>>> PageLoaderProcessor.java:390)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.PageLoaderImpl.loadPage(
>>> PageLoaderImpl.java:59)
>>>
>>> at $PageLoader_11dfbc0c2df.loadPage($PageLoader_11dfbc0c2df.java)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.PagePoolCache.checkout(
>>> PagePoolCache.java:210)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.PagePoolImpl.checkout(
>>> PagePoolImpl.java:99)
>>>
>>> at $PagePool_11dfbc0c2de.checkout($PagePool_11dfbc0c2de.java)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.RequestPageCacheImpl.get(
>>> RequestPageCacheImpl.java:51)
>>>
>>> at $RequestPageCache_11dfbc0c2dd.get($RequestPageCache_11dfbc0c2dd.java)
>>>
>>> at $RequestPageCache_11dfbc0c2d5.get($RequestPageCache_11dfbc0c2d5.java)
>>>
>>> at
>>>
>>> org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.RequestSecurityManagerImpl.checkForInsecureRequest(
>>> RequestSecurityManagerImpl.java:59)
>>>
>>> at
>>>
>>> $RequestSecurityManager_11dfbc0c2d4.checkForInsecureRequest($RequestSecurityManager_11dfbc0c2d4.java)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.services.TapestryModule$35.handle(
>>> TapestryModule.java:1771)
>>>
>>> at
>>>
>>> $PageRenderRequestHandler_11dfbc0c2d8.handle($PageRenderRequestHandler_11dfbc0c2d8.java)
>>>
>>> at
>>>
>>> $PageRenderRequestHandler_11dfbc0c2cb.handle($PageRenderRequestHandler_11dfbc0c2cb.java)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.PageRenderDispatcher.process(
>>> PageRenderDispatcher.java:92)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.PageRenderDispatcher.dispatch(
>>> PageRenderDispatcher.java:71)
>>>
>>> at $Dispatcher_11dfbc0c2d1.dispatch($Dispatcher_11dfbc0c2d1.java)
>>>
>>> at $Dispatcher_11dfbc0c2c3.dispatch($Dispatcher_11dfbc0c2c3.java)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.services.TapestryModule$17.service(
>>> TapestryModule.java:1029)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.LocalizationFilter.service(
>>> LocalizationFilter.java:42)
>>>
>>> at $RequestHandler_11dfbc0c2c4.service($RequestHandler_11dfbc0c2c4.java)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.RequestErrorFilter.service(
>>> RequestErrorFilter.java:26)
>>>
>>> at $RequestHandler_11dfbc0c2c4.service($RequestHandler_11dfbc0c2c4.java)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.services.TapestryModule$3.service(
>>> TapestryModule.java:621)
>>>
>>> at $RequestHandler_11dfbc0c2c4.service($RequestHandler_11dfbc0c2c4.java)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.services.TapestryModule$2.service(
>>> TapestryModule.java:611)
>>>
>>> at $RequestHandler_11dfbc0c2c4.service($RequestHandler_11dfbc0c2c4.java)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.StaticFilesFilter.service(
>>> StaticFilesFilter.java:85)
>>>
>>> at $RequestHandler_11dfbc0c2c4.service($RequestHandler_11dfbc0c2c4.java)
>>>
>>> at edu.wustl.wooo.ooTunes.services.impl.AuthenticationFilter.service(
>>> AuthenticationFilter.java:83)
>>>
>>> at $RequestFilter_11dfbc0c2bf.service($RequestFilter_11dfbc0c2bf.java)
>>>
>>> at $RequestHandler_11dfbc0c2c4.service($RequestHandler_11dfbc0c2c4.java)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.CheckForUpdatesFilter$2.invoke(
>>> CheckForUpdatesFilter.java:93)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.CheckForUpdatesFilter$2.invoke(
>>> CheckForUpdatesFilter.java:84)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.ioc.internal.util.ConcurrentBarrier.withRead(
>>> ConcurrentBarrier.java:83)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.CheckForUpdatesFilter.service(
>>> CheckForUpdatesFilter.java:106)
>>>
>>> at $RequestHandler_11dfbc0c2c4.service($RequestHandler_11dfbc0c2c4.java)
>>>
>>> at $RequestHandler_11dfbc0c2ba.service($RequestHandler_11dfbc0c2ba.java)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.services.TapestryModule$16.service(
>>> TapestryModule.java:1007)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.IgnoredPathsFilter.service(
>>> IgnoredPathsFilter.java:62)
>>>
>>> at
>>>
>>> $HttpServletRequestFilter_11dfbc0c2b9.service($HttpServletRequestFilter_11dfbc0c2b9.java)
>>>
>>> at
>>>
>>> $HttpServletRequestHandler_11dfbc0c2bb.service($HttpServletRequestHandler_11dfbc0c2bb.java)
>>>
>>> at
>>>
>>> $HttpServletRequestHandler_11dfbc0c2b8.service($HttpServletRequestHandler_11dfbc0c2b8.java)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.TapestryFilter.doFilter(TapestryFilter.java:179)
>>>
>>> at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.WebApplicationHandler$CachedChain.doFilter(
>>> WebApplicationHandler.java:821)
>>>
>>> at com.planetj.servlet.filter.compression.CompressingFilter.doFilter(
>>> CompressingFilter.java:222)
>>>
>>> at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.WebApplicationHandler$CachedChain.doFilter(
>>> WebApplicationHandler.java:821)
>>>
>>> at edu.wustl.wooo.ooTunes.server.SessionTrackingFilter.doFilter(
>>> SessionTrackingFilter.java:139)
>>>
>>> at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.WebApplicationHandler$CachedChain.doFilter(
>>> WebApplicationHandler.java:821)
>>>
>>> at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.WebApplicationHandler.dispatch(
>>> WebApplicationHandler.java:471)
>>>
>>> at
>>> org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler.handle(ServletHandler.java:568)
>>>
>>> at org.mortbay.http.HttpContext.handle(HttpContext.java:1530)
>>>
>>> at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.WebApplicationContext.handle(
>>> WebApplicationContext.java:633)
>>>
>>> at org.mortbay.http.HttpContext.handle(HttpContext.java:1482)
>>>
>>> at org.mortbay.http.HttpServer.service(HttpServer.java:909)
>>>
>>> at org.mortbay.http.HttpConnection.service(HttpConnection.java:816)
>>>
>>> at org.mortbay.http.HttpConnection.handleNext(HttpConnection.java:982)
>>>
>>> at org.mortbay.http.HttpConnection.handle(HttpConnection.java:833)
>>>
>>> at
>>> org.mortbay.http.SocketListener.handleConnection(SocketListener.java:244)
>>>
>>> at org.mortbay.util.ThreadedServer.handle(ThreadedServer.java:357)
>>>
>>> at org.mortbay.util.ThreadPool$PoolThread.run(ThreadPool.java:534)
>>>
>>> "SocketListener0-1":
>>>
>>> at javassist.Loader.loadClass(Loader.java:306)
>>>
>>> - waiting to lock <0x0e52d558> (a java.lang.String)
>>>
>>> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:251)
>>>
>>> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(ClassLoader.java:374)
>>>
>>> - locked <0x0a38e190> (a
>>>
>>> org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.ComponentInstantiatorSourceImpl$PackageAwareLoader)
>>>
>>> at java.lang.Class.getDeclaredMethods0(Native Method)
>>>
>>> at java.lang.Class.privateGetDeclaredMethods(Class.java:2395)
>>>
>>> at java.lang.Class.getDeclaredMethods(Class.java:1763)
>>>
>>> at java.beans.Introspector$1.run(Introspector.java:1265)
>>>
>>> at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
>>>
>>> at
>>> java.beans.Introspector.getPublicDeclaredMethods(Introspector.java:1263)
>>>
>>> - locked <0x0d7e3540> (a java.lang.Class)
>>>
>>> at java.beans.Introspector.getTargetMethodInfo(Introspector.java:1129)
>>>
>>> at java.beans.Introspector.getBeanInfo(Introspector.java:387)
>>>
>>> at java.beans.Introspector.getBeanInfo(Introspector.java:159)
>>>
>>> at
>>>
>>> org.apache.tapestry5.ioc.internal.services.PropertyAccessImpl.buildAdapter(
>>> PropertyAccessImpl.java:84)
>>>
>>> - locked <0x08e86b68> (a
>>> org.apache.tapestry5.ioc.internal.services.PropertyAccessImpl)
>>>
>>> at
>>> org.apache.tapestry5.ioc.internal.services.PropertyAccessImpl.getAdapter(
>>> PropertyAccessImpl.java:65)
>>>
>>> at
>>> $PropertyAccess_11dfbc0c2a8.getAdapter($PropertyAccess_11dfbc0c2a8.java)
>>>
>>> at
>>>
>>> org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.PropertyConduitSourceImpl.infoForTerm(
>>> PropertyConduitSourceImpl.java:401)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.PropertyConduitSourceImpl.build(
>>> PropertyConduitSourceImpl.java:160)
>>>
>>> at
>>> org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.PropertyConduitSourceImpl.create(
>>> PropertyConduitSourceImpl.java:102)
>>>
>>> at
>>>
>>> $PropertyConduitSource_11dfbc0c2ff.create($PropertyConduitSource_11dfbc0c2ff.java)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.internal.bindings.PropBindingFactory.newBinding(
>>> PropBindingFactory.java:45)
>>>
>>> at
>>> $BindingFactory_11dfbc0c300.newBinding($BindingFactory_11dfbc0c300.java)
>>>
>>> at
>>> $BindingFactory_11dfbc0c2f9.newBinding($BindingFactory_11dfbc0c2f9.java)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.BindingSourceImpl.newBinding(
>>> BindingSourceImpl.java:78)
>>>
>>> at $BindingSource_11dfbc0c2e7.newBinding($BindingSource_11dfbc0c2e7.java)
>>>
>>> at
>>> org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.PageElementFactoryImpl.newBinding(
>>> PageElementFactoryImpl.java:309)
>>>
>>> at
>>>
>>> $PageElementFactory_11dfbc0c2e1.newBinding($PageElementFactory_11dfbc0c2e1.java)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.PageLoaderProcessor.findBinding(
>>> PageLoaderProcessor.java:261)
>>>
>>> at
>>>
>>> org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.PageLoaderProcessor.bindParameterFromTemplate(
>>> PageLoaderProcessor.java:167)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.PageLoaderProcessor.attribute(
>>> PageLoaderProcessor.java:296)
>>>
>>> at
>>>
>>> org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.PageLoaderProcessor.loadTemplateForComponent(
>>> PageLoaderProcessor.java:503)
>>>
>>> at
>>>
>>> org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.PageLoaderProcessor.workComponentQueue(
>>> PageLoaderProcessor.java:834)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.PageLoaderProcessor.loadPage(
>>> PageLoaderProcessor.java:392)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.PageLoaderImpl.loadPage(
>>> PageLoaderImpl.java:59)
>>>
>>> at $PageLoader_11dfbc0c2df.loadPage($PageLoader_11dfbc0c2df.java)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.PagePoolCache.checkout(
>>> PagePoolCache.java:210)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.PagePoolImpl.checkout(
>>> PagePoolImpl.java:99)
>>>
>>> at $PagePool_11dfbc0c2de.checkout($PagePool_11dfbc0c2de.java)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.RequestPageCacheImpl.get(
>>> RequestPageCacheImpl.java:51)
>>>
>>> at $RequestPageCache_11dfbc0c2dd.get($RequestPageCache_11dfbc0c2dd.java)
>>>
>>> at $RequestPageCache_11dfbc0c2d5.get($RequestPageCache_11dfbc0c2d5.java)
>>>
>>> at
>>>
>>> org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.RequestSecurityManagerImpl.checkForInsecureRequest(
>>> RequestSecurityManagerImpl.java:59)
>>>
>>> at
>>>
>>> $RequestSecurityManager_11dfbc0c2d4.checkForInsecureRequest($RequestSecurityManager_11dfbc0c2d4.java)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.services.TapestryModule$44.handle(
>>> TapestryModule.java:2097)
>>>
>>> at
>>>
>>> $ComponentEventRequestHandler_11dfbc0c337.handle($ComponentEventRequestHandler_11dfbc0c337.java)
>>>
>>> at
>>>
>>> $ComponentEventRequestHandler_11dfbc0c2cf.handle($ComponentEventRequestHandler_11dfbc0c2cf.java)
>>>
>>> at
>>> org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.ComponentEventDispatcher.dispatch(
>>> ComponentEventDispatcher.java:127)
>>>
>>> at $Dispatcher_11dfbc0c2d1.dispatch($Dispatcher_11dfbc0c2d1.java)
>>>
>>> at $Dispatcher_11dfbc0c2c3.dispatch($Dispatcher_11dfbc0c2c3.java)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.services.TapestryModule$17.service(
>>> TapestryModule.java:1029)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.LocalizationFilter.service(
>>> LocalizationFilter.java:42)
>>>
>>> at $RequestHandler_11dfbc0c2c4.service($RequestHandler_11dfbc0c2c4.java)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.RequestErrorFilter.service(
>>> RequestErrorFilter.java:26)
>>>
>>> at $RequestHandler_11dfbc0c2c4.service($RequestHandler_11dfbc0c2c4.java)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.services.TapestryModule$3.service(
>>> TapestryModule.java:621)
>>>
>>> at $RequestHandler_11dfbc0c2c4.service($RequestHandler_11dfbc0c2c4.java)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.services.TapestryModule$2.service(
>>> TapestryModule.java:611)
>>>
>>> at $RequestHandler_11dfbc0c2c4.service($RequestHandler_11dfbc0c2c4.java)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.StaticFilesFilter.service(
>>> StaticFilesFilter.java:85)
>>>
>>> at $RequestHandler_11dfbc0c2c4.service($RequestHandler_11dfbc0c2c4.java)
>>>
>>> at edu.wustl.wooo.ooTunes.services.impl.AuthenticationFilter.service(
>>> AuthenticationFilter.java:83)
>>>
>>> at $RequestFilter_11dfbc0c2bf.service($RequestFilter_11dfbc0c2bf.java)
>>>
>>> at $RequestHandler_11dfbc0c2c4.service($RequestHandler_11dfbc0c2c4.java)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.CheckForUpdatesFilter$2.invoke(
>>> CheckForUpdatesFilter.java:93)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.CheckForUpdatesFilter$2.invoke(
>>> CheckForUpdatesFilter.java:84)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.ioc.internal.util.ConcurrentBarrier.withRead(
>>> ConcurrentBarrier.java:83)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.CheckForUpdatesFilter.service(
>>> CheckForUpdatesFilter.java:106)
>>>
>>> at $RequestHandler_11dfbc0c2c4.service($RequestHandler_11dfbc0c2c4.java)
>>>
>>> at $RequestHandler_11dfbc0c2ba.service($RequestHandler_11dfbc0c2ba.java)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.services.TapestryModule$16.service(
>>> TapestryModule.java:1007)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.internal.services.IgnoredPathsFilter.service(
>>> IgnoredPathsFilter.java:62)
>>>
>>> at
>>>
>>> $HttpServletRequestFilter_11dfbc0c2b9.service($HttpServletRequestFilter_11dfbc0c2b9.java)
>>>
>>> at
>>>
>>> $HttpServletRequestHandler_11dfbc0c2bb.service($HttpServletRequestHandler_11dfbc0c2bb.java)
>>>
>>> at
>>>
>>> $HttpServletRequestHandler_11dfbc0c2b8.service($HttpServletRequestHandler_11dfbc0c2b8.java)
>>>
>>> at org.apache.tapestry5.TapestryFilter.doFilter(TapestryFilter.java:179)
>>>
>>> at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.WebApplicationHandler$CachedChain.doFilter(
>>> WebApplicationHandler.java:821)
>>>
>>> at com.planetj.servlet.filter.compression.CompressingFilter.doFilter(
>>> CompressingFilter.java:222)
>>>
>>> at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.WebApplicationHandler$CachedChain.doFilter(
>>> WebApplicationHandler.java:821)
>>>
>>> at edu.wustl.wooo.ooTunes.server.SessionTrackingFilter.doFilter(
>>> SessionTrackingFilter.java:139)
>>>
>>> at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.WebApplicationHandler$CachedChain.doFilter(
>>> WebApplicationHandler.java:821)
>>>
>>> at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.WebApplicationHandler.dispatch(
>>> WebApplicationHandler.java:471)
>>>
>>> at
>>> org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler.handle(ServletHandler.java:568)
>>>
>>> at org.mortbay.http.HttpContext.handle(HttpContext.java:1530)
>>>
>>> at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.WebApplicationContext.handle(
>>> WebApplicationContext.java:633)
>>>
>>> at org.mortbay.http.HttpContext.handle(HttpContext.java:1482)
>>>
>>> at org.mortbay.http.HttpServer.service(HttpServer.java:909)
>>>
>>> at org.mortbay.http.HttpConnection.service(HttpConnection.java:816)
>>>
>>> at org.mortbay.http.HttpConnection.handleNext(HttpConnection.java:982)
>>>
>>> at org.mortbay.http.HttpConnection.handle(HttpConnection.java:833)
>>>
>>> at
>>> org.mortbay.http.SocketListener.handleConnection(SocketListener.java:244)
>>>
>>> at org.mortbay.util.ThreadedServer.handle(ThreadedServer.java:357)
>>>
>>> at org.mortbay.util.ThreadPool$PoolThread.run(ThreadPool.java:534)
>>>
>>>
>>> Found 1 deadlock.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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