Although I agree that Jetty is by far the best way to develop tapestry, I also agree that a "Jetty is required"-statement in the docs would be very very bad. This is politics, it doesn't matter if Jetty is the best and the fastest. Lots of teams, leaders and programmers out there will read it and instantly move on to the next web framework, trying to find something that actually matches their requirement list, which might include Websphere or JBoss.
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Ulrich Stärk <[email protected]> wrote: > +1 > > > On 16.06.2010 09:06, Markus Joschko wrote: > >> I also object strongly against "requiring" jetty. In our company we >> always use the same AS for development that also runs in production. >> That can be Jboss or Weblogic with all the J2EE setup like JMS queues >> and JTA transactions. >> Reading that jetty is "required" for development would be a killer >> argument against tapestry. I would prefer kind of a "tip" box that >> shortly lists the advantages of using jetty for development. However >> development should be possible with every web container. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 3:56 AM, Kalle Korhonen >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I just don't think the issue is Tomcat. The problem is Eclipse WTP's >>> built-in generic and thus awful support for servlet containers >>> (including Tomcat) that people are trying to use. >>> >>> Kalle >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 21:36:46 -0300, Howard Lewis Ship<[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I think we could save people a lot of trouble by coming out and saying >>>>> in the (upcoming docs rewrite) that they are required to use Jetty for >>>>> development. Everyone keeps shooting themselves in the foot trying to >>>>> use Tomcat and its so damn simple to use Jetty instead. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I think we should be very careful wording this so it doesn't seem that >>>> Tapestry only works in Jetty. "Required" is quite strong, maybe we >>>> should >>>> use "highly recommeded, saving you a lot of headaches". >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo >>>> Independent Java, Apache Tapestry 5 and Hibernate consultant, developer, >>>> and >>>> instructor >>>> Owner, Ars Machina Tecnologia da Informação Ltda. >>>> http://www.arsmachina.com.br >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > >
