Life class reloading doesn't affect classes packed into jars. Thus no problems with libraries.
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Oliver Geisser <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi, > > maybe I misunderstand something but I do not believe that this is > "harmless". > > This will corrupt all singleton pattern implementations which are based on > a > static > getInstance() method and a static field. > > Or wouldn't it? > > You may argue that the singleton pattern is "evil" but nevertheless there > are a lot > of libraries out there implementing it. > > > Greetings > Olli > > > 2010/9/3 Howard Lewis Ship <[email protected]> > > > On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Igor Drobiazko <[email protected] > > > > wrote: > > > How that? You would need to load that class together with the service > > from > > > same classloader. What if a ServiceMessages is accessed by several > > services? > > > > Each service will end up with its own copy of the class (including its > > static variables). That may not be desirable, or it may be an unwanted > > leaky abstraction, but harmless. > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Howard Lewis Ship <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > >> I can actually fix that, by bringing ServiceMessages "under the > > umbrella". > > >> > > >> On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Igor Drobiazko < > > [email protected]> > > >> wrote: > > >> > If you have a class like the following one inside the services > package > > >> and > > >> > access the foo() method inside a service, you'll experience > > >> > IllegalAccessException. You can fix the problem by changing the > > >> visibility > > >> > of the foo() method to public. > > >> > > > >> > public class ServiceMessages { > > >> > static String foo(){ > > >> > return "foo"; > > >> > } > > >> > } > > >> > > > >> > On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Howard Lewis Ship < > [email protected]> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > > >> >> Tell me more about static utility methods ... it may be possible to > > >> >> make those work as well. > > >> >> > > >> >> On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Igor Drobiazko > > >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> >> > I tested my apps today with the recent snapshots. It looks good. > No > > >> >> problems > > >> >> > with protected or package private methods in super classes. There > > are > > >> >> still > > >> >> > some problems with static utility methods but it is ok. I think > we > > are > > >> >> ready > > >> >> > for a beta release now. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Igor Drobiazko < > > >> >> [email protected]>wrote: > > >> >> > > > >> >> >> That's great. I'll try it out and report the results. > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Howard Lewis Ship < > > [email protected] > > >> >> >wrote: > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >>> Yesterday I checked in a revised version of the live service > > >> reloading > > >> >> >>> code. > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> The new code is a bit smarter about extending the class-loader > > >> >> >>> umbrella to inner classes and base classes. This should make > > >> protected > > >> >> >>> method invocations work correctly (in most cases). > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> There may be room for additional analysis. > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> I'd appreciate it if people could try out the snapshot and see > > how > > >> >> >>> well it flies. I really don't want to make live service > > reloading > > >> >> >>> default to off. > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> -- > > >> >> >>> Howard M. Lewis Ship > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> Creator of Apache Tapestry > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. > Contact > > me > > >> to > > >> >> >>> learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast! > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> (971) 678-5210 > > >> >> >>> http://howardlewisship.com > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> >> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > >> >> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> -- > > >> >> >> Best regards, > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Igor Drobiazko > > >> >> >> http://tapestry5.de > > >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > -- > > >> >> > Best regards, > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Igor Drobiazko > > >> >> > http://tapestry5.de > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> -- > > >> >> Howard M. Lewis Ship > > >> >> > > >> >> Creator of Apache Tapestry > > >> >> > > >> >> The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me > > to > > >> >> learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast! > > >> >> > > >> >> (971) 678-5210 > > >> >> http://howardlewisship.com > > >> >> > > >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > -- > > >> > Best regards, > > >> > > > >> > Igor Drobiazko > > >> > http://tapestry5.de > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Howard M. Lewis Ship > > >> > > >> Creator of Apache Tapestry > > >> > > >> The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to > > >> learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast! > > >> > > >> (971) 678-5210 > > >> http://howardlewisship.com > > >> > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Igor Drobiazko > > > http://tapestry5.de > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Howard M. Lewis Ship > > > > Creator of Apache Tapestry > > > > The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to > > learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast! > > > > (971) 678-5210 > > http://howardlewisship.com > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > > -- > og > -- Best regards, Igor Drobiazko http://tapestry5.de
