Hi all, I spoke to Matt after his presentation as well and started to discuss the evaluation approach by mail. As somebody mentioned, he told people to contact him in case they don't agree. He did a lot of work on the research. I have only done 3 indepth evaluations and it takes an incredible amount of time to do such things. His effort should be respected and we should provide him with easy to prove arguments based on code samples etc.
The issue is not to value Tapestry down for efficiency. In a use case of a stateless application, there are good arguments that development efficiency is a lot higher with Spring MVC or Stripes or a light way Ruby framework. His evaluation is correct in that sense. In a use case of a business application this evaluation is no longer true and due to good error messages, class reloading etc Tapestry deserves a better evaluation. What I proposed to Matt is to work out different use cases and point out which framework does support such an approach the best way? Just to give you a couple of different use cases: - Business application with many dialogs to work on data -> best addressed with component based frameworks to allow heavy reuse of elements (Tapestry, Wicket, JSF 2) - same as above but requirement of high development speed could exclude JSF 2 - integration of business process managament, JEE etc JSF2 could be in again support by JBoss Seam - Web like application / platform -> mostly stateless, performance considerations (Stripes, Spring MVC) - Business app with heavy interaction on a single page -> fat client approaches (GWT, Flex, CK, echo, Vaadin etc) - Same as before but limited client performance -> approaches which build together the content on the server (Tapestry, Wicket, Vaadin) I will keep you posted. -- Best Regards / Viele Grüße Sebastian Hennebrueder ----- http://www.laliluna.de Java software developer and trainer for Hibernate and Java Persistence Am 23.11.2010 um 01:20 schrieb Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo: > On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 21:20:48 -0200, Igor Drobiazko <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Just adjusted the design of the account to look more like Tapestry' web >> site. > > Cool! Thanks! > > -- > Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo > Independent Java, Apache Tapestry 5 and Hibernate consultant, developer, and > instructor > Owner, Ars Machina Tecnologia da Informação Ltda. > http://www.arsmachina.com.br > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >
