As long as that's possible, then I'm fine with it being a direct (but not 
runtime-required) dependency.

Robert

On Dec 21, 2010, at 12/2110:58 AM , Andreas Andreou wrote:

> Well, my thought was that it would be possible to architect ioc in
> such a way that
> the jsr jar isn't required at runtime (if users dont need its
> features)... if that's not
> possible, then i'm slightly leaning to having a separate project
> 
> On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 18:36, Robert Zeigler <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I'll offer a dissenting voice. :) I think it's not onerous for people who 
>> want them to add a dependency, but adding them directly to IOC introduces a 
>> potentially unwanted dependency to people who have no interest in using 
>> them.  The jar may be small, but a lot of all, inused jars adds up quickly.  
>> I like having more control over what gets sucked intoy application  ;) So my 
>> vote would be for a separate module.   I wouldn't be opposed to the 
>> quickstart adding the jsr ioc module since that is easy enough to remove.
>> 
>> Robert
>> 
>> GATAATGCTATTTCTTTAATTTTCGAA
>> 
>> On Dec 21, 2010, at 8:41 AM, Igor Drobiazko <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Ok, keeping own annotations makes sense. Do we want to support JSR-303
>>> annotations out of the box by adding a new jar depenency to tapestry-ioc or
>>> would a new library make more sense?
>>> 
>>> I tend to the outof the box soluton.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 08:58:40 -0200, Christian Riedel <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Igor,
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi, guys!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I'm not sure about the deprecation but generally it's a good idea, I
>>>>> think. Look at Hibernate and JPA for example. They have kept their
>>>>> annotations and support the standard ones as well. I like the idea of 
>>>>> having
>>>>> the choice...
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I was going to post the same opinion. :) I think it wouldn't be hard to
>>>> support both the Tapestry-IoC annotations and the JSR 303 ones. We'd just
>>>> need to document which one Tapestry would check first and not allowing 
>>>> mixed
>>>> use in the same class.
>>>> 
>>>> By the way, thanks Igor for stepping up for implementing this. I hope I
>>>> have time to team up with you in this project.
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
>>>> Independent Java, Apache Tapestry 5 and Hibernate consultant, developer,
>>>> and instructor
>>>> Owner, Ars Machina Tecnologia da Informação Ltda.
>>>> http://www.arsmachina.com.br
>>>> 
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>>> 
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> Igor Drobiazko
>>> http://tapestry5.de
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