> Alternately, perhaps we need to resuscitate the idea of a standard > library (or libraries) beyond core.
My gut tells me to pull as much of the system apart into independent modules as possible. Smaller is better, easier to understand, easier to test. Josh On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <[email protected]> wrote: > I think there's a larger discussion to be had about "what belongs in core". > > I think the original goal was "only things people couldn't live > without" (Form, TextField, validations) and then grew from there: > > - Mega-components: BeanEditor, Grid > - Client-side validations > - Ajax components and mixins > > I really think core has evolved to be "things most projects can use > as-is", or something to that effect. In fact, having a canonical way > for services to record alerts to be presented to users would, itself, > be a big bonus. > > I think it may have been premature at one time to include these > things, but I think T5 now has a few years of real world experience to > guide this ... including the projects I'm working on. > > So basically, I'm saying that I've found a specific use for this > functionality and feel it can be generalized to most applications, and > therefore it belongs. So we're going after "what makes people happy" > rather than "pure". > > Alternately, perhaps we need to resuscitate the idea of a standard > library (or libraries) beyond core. In T4, the library was a bit of a > dumping ground for undocumented, untested code that people grew to > depend on anyway. > > Perhaps this kind of thing belongs in TapX and we need to promote use > of TapX more strongly. It originally started to fill needs caused by > licensing issues, or desirable out-of-release-cycle changes (i.e., a > standard library to patch prototype up to a more recent version). > > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Andreas Andreou <[email protected]> wrote: >> Well, with tapestry's extensibility it's not always straightforward >> where such code better belongs to... Is there some guideline you're using >> to decide? >> Cause on the other hand, this SSO & service you're talking about would >> also probably work with T5.2... that would imply that it'd better live >> outside >> core, wouldn't it? >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 22:56, Howard Lewis Ship <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Not certain; I think the base implementation of the SSO and service >>> would suffice for most projects, and the component could be easily >>> augmented with CSS or replaced entirely. >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Andreas Andreou (JIRA) >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> [ >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAP5-1421?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12983883#action_12983883 >>>> ] >>>> >>>> Andreas Andreou commented on TAP5-1421: >>>> --------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Isn't it best to keep something like this out of the core? >>>> >>>>> Create a standard way to track messages to be presented to the user >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> Key: TAP5-1421 >>>>> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAP5-1421 >>>>> Project: Tapestry 5 >>>>> Issue Type: New Feature >>>>> Components: tapestry-core >>>>> Reporter: Howard M. Lewis Ship >>>>> Priority: Minor >>>>> >>>>> For a client, I've created a GlobalAlerts SSO, along with a >>>>> GlobalAlertsManager service, an Alerts component, even JavaScript >>>>> client-side support for adding and clearing alerts. I'd like to >>>>> generalize this code a bit ... currently Alerts messages are limited to >>>>> strings (fully renderable would be better). >>>> >>>> -- >>>> This message is automatically generated by JIRA. >>>> - >>>> You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Howard M. Lewis Ship >>> >>> Creator of Apache Tapestry >>> >>> The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. 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