I'd love to use something a bit more offline, like Jekyl
(https://github.com/mojombo/jekyll) to generate the documentation.

The only advantage to our current approach is that we have a half-way
ground, where signers of the CLA can contribute documentation.

What about if we maintain a public Git repo for the documentation, and
only accept pull requests from people who have signed the CLA?

On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Bob Harner <[email protected]> wrote:
> I don't know. My gut feeling is that it will take several months to migrate
> our content, something we should start thinking about in the coming months
> but not something to start doing quite yet. Remember, just because the
> infrastructure guys say something will happen by a certain deadline doesn't
> mean it really will. A lot can change in a year.
>
> I'll admit I'm reluctant to move quickly to a new homegrown CMS system
> designed from scratch by a system administrator, built on Perl, written in
> just 30 days and only in use a couple of months now. I'd rather let some
> other projects work out the kinks.
>
> Bob Harner
> On Dec 26, 2011 2:19 PM, "Josh Canfield" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The comments on your defect seem too imply that we only have confluence for
>> a year. What happens after a year? How long is it going to take to migrate?
>> On Dec 26, 2011 6:43 AM, "Bob Harner" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > Yeah, but I wouldn't be in a rush. Better to let other projects work out
>> > the bugs, and maybe they'll even come up with a migration path that we
>> can
>> > use. Right now we have a very nice system that works well.
>> >
>> > Bob Harner
>> > On Dec 25, 2011 6:58 PM, "Josh Canfield" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > > It sounds like there needs to be an effort to get off confluence if we
>> > > really only have "a year max".
>> > > On Dec 24, 2011 8:18 AM, "Bob Harner" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Howard (or anybody else with Confluence admin rights),
>> > > >
>> > > > Can you paste the template in one more time?  I've updated the
>> > > > template in SVN again, with a work-around.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > /tapestry/tapestry-site/branches/post-5.2-site/autoexport_template.txt
>> > > >
>> > > > The Apache infrastructure guys marked as "invalid" the INFRA-4248
>> JIRA
>> > > > issue I filed (no surprise there), So now I've gone in another
>> > > > direction, forcing IE into standards mode using the "x-ua-compatible"
>> > > > meta tag. (For the curious, see
>> > > > http://www.alistapart.com/articles/beyonddoctype)
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks in advance!
>> > > >
>> > > > On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Bob Harner <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> > > > > Unfortunately, the IE problem persists. The DOCTYPE declaration is
>> > > > > still not being rendered as the first item in the HTML.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I checked several other Apache web sites -- Shiro, Directory,
>> Camel,
>> > > > > ActiveMQ -- which also use the auto-export process, and they also
>> all
>> > > > > render in Quirks mode in IE due to having the DOCTYPE in the wrong
>> > > > > place, even though their auto-export templates
>> > > > > (e.g.
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> http://shiro.apache.org/confluence-auto-export.data/shiroConfluenceAutoExportTemplate.vhtml.txt
>> > > > )
>> > > > > are correct. So I guess this problem is caused by the export plugin
>> > > > > itself. Maybe the Apache infrastructure guys are forcing the
>> license
>> > > > > to the top for bureaucratic reasons.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Unless somebody has another idea, I'll file a ticket with the
>> Apache
>> > > > > Infrastructure team. I don't think they really want to support the
>> > > > > auto-export plugin, though.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Alternatively, we could change the site design to work well in
>> Quirks
>> > > > > mode. But I'd really rather not do that.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <
>> > [email protected]>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > >> Updated, export in progress.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Bob Harner <[email protected]>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > >>> The problem is that the export process is causing the DOCTYPE
>> > > > >>> declaration to appear below the license comment block, despite
>> the
>> > > > >>> template having it the other way around. It turns out that not
>> > having
>> > > > >>> the DOCTYPE declaration as the very first thing on the page
>> causes
>> > IE
>> > > > >>> to remain in quirks mode.
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> I updated the file in SVN again, moving the velocity directives
>> > below
>> > > > >>> the DOCTYPE declaration. Can you (or anyone) try pasting it into
>> > the
>> > > > >>> admin console again, making sure that <!DOCTYPE html> is the very
>> > > > >>> first line in the resulting text? (Or if you want, give me the
>> site
>> > > > >>> admin rights to do so myself.)
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> Then I'll just publish a single page so we can see if it is right
>> > > > >>> before exporting the whole site again.
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> Thanks!
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Bob Harner <[email protected]
>> >
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > >>>> Thanks!
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> Unfortunately, the new DOCTYPE didn't seem to help, even though
>> my
>> > > > >>>> tests showed that it would. My IE 8 is still rendering the page
>> in
>> > > > >>>> Quirks mode. More investigation needed...
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Howard Lewis Ship <
>> > > [email protected]>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > >>>>> Export is in progress, now.
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 8:20 AM, Howard Lewis Ship <
>> > > [email protected]>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > >>>>>> On it!
>> > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Bob Harner <
>> > [email protected]>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > >>>>>>> For many many months now, our nice Confluence-generated
>> > > > documentation
>> > > > >>>>>>> has not looked right in IE, due to IE rendering in quirks
>> mode.
>> > > The
>> > > > >>>>>>> simple fix is to switch to a proper doctype, such as the
>> HTML5
>> > > > one, in
>> > > > >>>>>>> the auto-export template. I have done that today and
>> committed
>> > > the
>> > > > >>>>>>> change, but somebody with Confluence admin rights (such as
>> Uli)
>> > > > will
>> > > > >>>>>>> need to paste the contents of the newly-committed template
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >
>> > (/tapestry/tapestry-site/branches/post-5.2-site/autoexport_template.txt)
>> > > > >>>>>>> into the admin screens as described at the bottom of
>> > > > >>>>>>> http://tapestry.apache.org/confluence-site-setup.html
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>> Once that is done and the whole site re-exported, IE will
>> like
>> > > > >>>>>>> Tapestry once again.
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>> Thanks in advance to whoever takes care of this!
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>
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>> > > > >>
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