>Decide which code is in/out: "... keep
our future options open
>to bring in the rest of the code later without a second software grant."

That sounds like a good plan. What do we have to do to find out if we can
bring the rest of the code in later without a new grant?

A weekly status sounds like a good way to keep this moving.

Gale

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017, 8:49 AM Stian Soiland-Reyes <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Fri, 17 Feb 2017 17:31:59 +0000, Andy Seaborne <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > There is a recent thread regarding getting podlings to graduate on the
> > > incubator mailing list. Perhaps we can add Taverna to their list. We
> may
> > > have stalled again. Any thoughts? What really, really, really needs
> done
> > > to graduate? Let's move out any non essential components. We've already
> > > released several so they are ready to go. Of the rest what do we really
> > > need to keep? I can't see any that are essential.
> >
> > I think you've described the situation accurately.
> >
> > * Decide which code is in and which is not.
>
> This is the tricky bit.. I guess we have been undecided, as there is
> more we think "should" keep than we have been able to get ready.
>
> We have to be more realistic and cut our ambitions to align with the
> actual effort we have available. It would be good if we can still keep
> our future options open to bring in the rest of the code later without a
> second software grant.
>
>
> > * Release the "in" code.
>
> Agreed. This should be not be too much work for taverna-server, and even
> for taverna-workbench-* (although they might not be release-ready for
> the public).
>
>
> > * Don't stall :-)
>
> Let's start a weekly status roll to avoid stalling. We can do it
>
>
> > Good would be to have more PPMC diversity of organisation.
>
> Technically we've got higher diversity now that Ian no longer
> works at The University of Manchester, Christian and Donal are in a
> different group and Gale got a new job :-) - but I see your point -
> particularly in consideration of what is effectively the *active* PPMC.
>
> > Graduation needs the codebase to be ASF-clean and verified; that's
> > Tavernas main item in my view.  A release does that best.
>
> I suggest we do a source code release of what we have, and don't promote
> too much on the website anything that is not at user-ready.
>
> Taverna Mobile would be interesting to release as well - as there's
> never been an Android release through the incubator before, and those
> have their own (it turns out) proprietary build chains.
>
>
> > Maybe Taverna isn't quite at the point to be rallied.  The other
> > podlings are mostly all done, just need to do the grdauation step itself.
>
> Agree on this ; while we're pretty much ready to graduate, for the IPMC
> to evaluate that this is the case would take a bit longer than in the
> projects in the rally.
>
> I think Ian has done well on our license review under
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TAVERNADEV/2016-09+License+review
> and sub pages, which fits into
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TAVERNADEV/2016-03+Taverna+Graduation+Maturity+Assessment
>
> However the above still needs filling in for the remaining parts, from
> RE40 and below.
>
> --
> Stian Soiland-Reyes
> The University of Manchester
> http://www.esciencelab.org.uk/
> http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
>
>

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