@all,
@Christopher,

I'm not quite sure if this is the right medium. But since you brought it up, I will make the best out of it and try to answer it from my personal viewpoint and while doing that, I also speak to everybody else who subscribed to this mailing list.

At first, thank you for your valuable insights.

Yes, we are trying to grow the base of active people. We added 2 committers and one PMC in the last weeks, and we will continue to do that. If you know people who want to be active here - they are welcome. We do have plenty of committers and PMC members, and - let's be honest - we currently do have more inactive people than active ones, unfortunately. We would love to change that better sooner than later, but you know, everything here at the ASF is voluntary work. So unless people intrinsically want to contribute or if they simply got other priorities, they don't. That's fine, and it is a normal fact of life.

Potential new committers and PMC member candidates need to have at least some understanding about what we are doing here. So that process also needs some time. Plus, we are not Hadoop or Hive or some other more fancy ASF project, we are "only" an awesome, enabling, middleware technology - a factor that might certainly be a reason why we are not getting overwhelmed with volunteers.

Fortunately, the last weeks saw an increase in new contributions which will hopefully lead to more committers etc. - to all those people I'd like to take the opportunity and thank you for every single patch you sent and for everything else you contributed so far. We will look at every PR or patch. It might not happen immediately, but we will!

And I also want to thank those brave few who spare some of their valuable time to help out more actively than others.


that is the responsibility of any PMC member or committer.

Exactly. Any.

The ticket was in the system for everyone to see and react on it.

This is open source. Everybody is free to use it, yes - and to contribute.
If there are only takers, then ... well, Dear Reader, I leave that to your imagination.

For those who now ask themselves, how they can get a committer invitation: It's easier thank you think! It all starts here: http://thrift.apache.org/docs/HowToContribute


@PMC: You know that you may start votes for candidates yourself, do you?

Have fun,
JensG


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- From: Christopher
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 1:42 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Please respond to THRIFT-4998

Thank you. I have a follow-up question.

Is the thrift community dependent on just a few individuals with
specific duties? It seems so from the responses.

If that is the case, I would highly encourage the thrift developers to
try to grow their community by adding new committers and PMC members,
who can perform some of these tasks. Nothing should be dependent on a
single individual, or a small group of individuals. Release
management, including publishing to Maven Central, should be something
that any PMC member can perform. And, responding to questions/issues
in a timely manner should be something that is the responsibility of
any PMC member or committer.

If the problem isn't one of limited responsibility, but rather one of
limited expertise, then I would recommend adding some stuff to the
thrift website that documents how to perform a release, and try to
train other community members with that information.

On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 4:33 PM James E. King III <[email protected]> wrote:

Sorry Christopher, I founded a new company and haven't had any time for the
usual duties like this.  I'll take care of it this weekend.

- Jim

On Fri, Nov 15, 2019, 5:45 PM Jens Geyer <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> I agree, and I already reached out to the maven maintainer.
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> From: Christopher
> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 10:44 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Please respond to THRIFT-4998
>
> Can a committer or PMC member please respond to the numerous requests
> for information about the 0.13.0 release artifacts in Maven Central at
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/THRIFT-4998 ?
>
> It has been over a week, and nobody is replying to the users who took
> the time to report the issue to the developers. This is a very
> unfriendly way to treat Thrift's user community.
>
> Please respond, somebody.
>
> Thanks.
>
>

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