Hi Tim,

Thanks for the documentation ! it is clear in my opinion.

It is a very interesting way to configure parsers on the fly depending on what 
we want to do. In the case of the NER parser, the interest would be limited 
though as the only configuration that propose the parser is to restrict the 
mime types processed (if I am not wrong ?).

In our case, we found very frustrating with the NER parser to not being able to:

1/ Select the implementation classes we want to use or not through the parser 
config in the tika-config.xml file, not a JVM parameter
2/ Being able to enable or disable specific parsers during a request
3/ Concerning the RegexNERecogniser implementation, not being able to create 
named groups of regex in the parser config and define the group(s) we want to 
use through header param (and being able to disable RegexNERecogniser if we 
don't want to perform regex NER but it goes back to point 2/)

Based on this, according to what you said, the main solution would be to add 
more options to the NER parser config (point 3/) and create a NERServerConfig 
like the PDFServerConfig and the TesseractServerConfig. The cherry on the cake 
would be to be able to specify tika-config.xml file via URL parameters.

What do you think ? 

Julien   

-----Message d'origine-----
De : Tim Allison <[email protected]> 
Envoyé : mercredi 15 février 2023 19:51
À : [email protected]
Objet : Re: Adding arguments to configure tika from the rest calls

Here's a first attempt at documentation:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TIKA/Configuring+Parsers+At+Parse+Time+in+tika-server

Please let me know if you have any questions or want write access to improve 
the documentation!

On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 11:07 AM Julien Massiera 
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> bouncing back on our mail thread, could you share more documentation on how 
> to use the header to configure the PDFParser on the fly ?
>
> Thanks,
> Julien
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Julien Massiera <[email protected]> Envoyé : 
> vendredi 3 février 2023 13:08 À : [email protected] Objet : RE: 
> Adding arguments to configure tika from the rest calls
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> The NER Parse config via headers like the PDFParserConfig sounds an 
> interesting approach but I have just discovered that feature thanks to 
> your reply and I tried to find a documentation about this, 
> unfortunately the only thing I found was a TBD note on that page 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=10945
> 4066
>
> Could you tell us more about how to use it ? so that we can test it to have a 
> better idea on how it works and how useful would it be for NER ?
>
> Thanks,
> Julien
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Tim Allison <[email protected]> Envoyé : mardi 31 janvier 2023 
> 13:19 À : [email protected] Objet : Re: Adding arguments to 
> configure tika from the rest calls
>
> Configuring specific parsers that don't have their own parser config 
> objects is a pain.  For example, we currently have an option to set 
> PDFParserConfig and TesseractParserConfig options via headers to 
> tika-server...and we have a way to extend this functionality to other 
> parsers.  This option is "not pretty"(TM), but it has the benefit of 
> correctly differentiating creation-time settings (applies to all
> files) from runtime-settings (applies to a specific file), and this process 
> reuses a single static parser so there's no overhead in rebuilding the parser 
> object for every file.
>
> So, we could add an ner parse config along the lines of the PDFParserConfig, 
> or...
>
> ...I regret I can't tell if this is what you're proposing, but we could 
> specify a tika-config.xml file via url parameters?  This would add overhead 
> of loading the full parser for each parse where you specify your own custom 
> parser.  Or, I guess, we could load x many default parsers and name them?
>
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 5:34 AM Cedric Ulmer <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > We are playing with the regex-based detection capabilities of Tika combined 
> > with ManifoldCF, and an idea came to our mind. First, the problem: for now, 
> > a tika server has only one configuration. Therefore, if we set a regex 
> > based entity extraction, it will be applied to all of the documents (for 
> > given mime types). So if in ManifoldCF we call the Tika server during an 
> > crawling phase, we cannot have different regex rules per crawling job: any 
> > job that calls the tika server will be processed the same way.
> >
> > So here is the idea: wouldn't it be possible to make the call to a 
> > tika server configurable via a REST parameter/arguments, where we 
> > could set which config we want to use for the current call ? 
> > Something
> > like: ?enableNER=true&NERConfig=regex1
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Cédric
> > CEO
> > France Labs - Your knowledge, now
> > Datafari Enterprise Search
> >
>
>

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