Cool! Great info here!! Good refresher to keep us from continuing to provide compliment commits.
It is tricky now that we are forced to use AI tools at work now because now I have to get used to not having them for ASF projects. Thus why I was seeing if I can get them for ASF projects. I will continue to author my own commits and just use AI like Google at this point which trains and gives examples and documentation but is not authoring my my code. On Mon, Apr 22, 2024, 3:36 AM Nick Burch <apa...@gagravarr.org> wrote: > On Sun, 21 Apr 2024, Michael Wechner wrote: > > Thanks for the pointer to the Generative Tooling rules, which I was not > > aware of so far. > > > > At the bottom it says, that the ASF does not tell developers what tools > > to use, but I think it would be useful to useful to have some concrete > > examples, which would make the rules more clear. > > (Not a lawyer, not an official ASK response) > > There's nothing special about LLMs and this, other than perhaps the speed > with which you can make mistakes... When including other people's code, > it's all about license compatibility and attribution > > The ASF started when a bunch of people started sharing patches for a web > server, with attribution and code under a compatible license. The > foundation grew during a period where it got easier to find code + code > snippets online, including much that wasn't under a compatible license. > Rules didn't change, other than clarifying processes for checking licenses > and what was/wasn't compatible. > > You weren't, and still aren't, allowed to copy + paste large chunks of > someone else's code without a compatible license and suitable attribution. > Using a LLM to read all the internet and suggest the code to copy doesn't > change that. Well, other than the well-documented issues with getting LLMs > to cite their sources... > > LLMs have loads of great uses, including helping you learn new things, > decoding error messages, finding common patterns, rubber-ducking etc. > They're even worse than many internet forums for suggesting large chunks > of code of unclear provenance to copy+paste > > It doesn't matter if it's ChatGPT, Github Co-pilot, a local LLM, someone > on StackOverflow, or a YouTube video that's giving you some code you want > to copy. 3 characters are almost certainly fine, 3 pages are almost > certainly not, a general idea is often fine, and you absolutely need to > engage your brain before committing to ASF repos! > > > Otherwise, if you do still think more rules / examples / etc are needed, > you'll be wanting legal-discuss@ > https://lists.apache.org/list.html?legal-disc...@apache.org > > Cheers > Nick >
