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https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TINKERPOP-2039

On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 7:48 PM Robert Dale <[email protected]> wrote:

> Sorry, was skimming and only saw the 3.0 mention.  The default is in 3.0. I
> thought I read that was new there.   I don’t know what’s in 2.5. I’ll try
> to take a look this week.
>
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 19:20 Stephen Mallette <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > ah - i tried to find some specific mention of that and didn't come across
> > it. if that's the case, then i think that maybe we should just head
> > straight to 2.5.2 on master. would you still go to groovy-all if we did
> > that? i presume the indy problem would go away in that case then right?
> >
> > i do think we should just do this all at once as part of one PR - i have
> > 2.5.2. building now with some minor required changes to get it working. i
> > can push that to a branch and we can go from there....
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 7:16 PM Robert Dale <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Indy is gone because invokedynamic is the default in that version.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 18:30 Stephen Mallette <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Looking ahead a bit on this one (I'm interested in what it will take
> to
> > > get
> > > > to Groovy 3.0.0) I noticed that 2.5.x requires <type>pom</type> and
> > > > that groovy-all-x.y.z.jar is no longer available "In order to cater
> to
> > > the
> > > > module system of Java 9+" - i also don't see an "indy" classifier for
> > > that
> > > > in central:
> > > >
> > > > https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/codehaus/groovy/groovy-all/2.5.2/
> > > >
> > > > atm, i'm not sure if that changes anything in terms of the direction
> we
> > > > were headed.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 3:06 PM Stephen Mallette <
> [email protected]
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > jeez - hornets nest
> > > > >
> > > > > interesting that going to a single module makes our distribution
> > > smaller.
> > > > > I assume that we must have though the opposite when we started
> using
> > > > pieces
> > > > > of groovy rather than "-all".   at this point there shouldn't be
> any
> > > more
> > > > > weirdly licensed files in groovy given that they have been
> releasing
> > > > under
> > > > > apache for as long as we have. i can't really come up with a reason
> > not
> > > > to
> > > > > go to "-all" on 3.4.0, so i guess i'm +1 for that.
> > > > >
> > > > > the :install command could support classifiers because grape/ivy
> > > support
> > > > > it as an option. we could treat that as a separate issue i guess -
> > new
> > > > JIRA?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 6:00 PM Robert Dale <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> So, I was taking a closer look at this there's potentially a
> larger
> > > mess
> > > > >> we
> > > > >> want to address.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> TLDR:  instead of removing groovy-sql,  replace all groovy deps
> with
> > > > >> groovy-all-indy.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> First, a bit of history.  tp32 did actually use groovy.sql.Sql
> > > > >> in ConsoleImportCustomizerProvider. This class was deprecated in
> > > 3.2.4.
> > > > >> Later, it was removed in 3.3.0.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> With the plan being to remove groovy-sql completely in 3.4.0, I
> was
> > > > >> testing
> > > > >> my instructions on using the :install feature to reinstall it just
> > in
> > > > case
> > > > >> had someone depended on it.  It of course downloaded groovy-sql
> but
> > it
> > > > was
> > > > >> different than what was in lib/.  It was missing '-indy'.  It also
> > > > >> downloaded the non-indy version of groovy.  I had to go learn what
> > > > '-indy'
> > > > >> was about. For those who don't know '-indy' is a maven classifier
> to
> > > > >> denote
> > > > >> that the jar was built with Java 1.7 'invokedymanic' support as
> > > opposed
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> legacy 'call site'.  The short of it is that invokedymanic is more
> > > > >> performant than call site.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> As I was comparing groovy lib/, I noticed that console and server
> > > > already
> > > > >> include both groovy-2.4.15-indy.jar and groovy-2.4.15.jar.
> However,
> > > the
> > > > >> docs[1] state that only one or the other should be included. Same
> > goes
> > > > for
> > > > >> any 'indy' and 'non-indy' jar of the same module.  Luckily, we
> don't
> > > > have
> > > > >> any other conflict like that although there is a mix of other indy
> > > > >> non-indy
> > > > >> modules.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I tried again and was unable to download the indy version of
> > > groovy-sql
> > > > >> because the :install command does not allow a 'classifier'
> > parameter.
> > > It
> > > > >> will only download the non-indy verison of modules.  Even if it
> > could
> > > > >> download the 'indy' version, the groovy dependencies are built
> such
> > > that
> > > > >> all 'indy' modules have a dependency on non-indy modules.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> So, there are several issues:
> > > > >> 1) there is included a conflicting mix of indy and non-indy builds
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > >> same module - groovy.  This is bad and should be fixed.
> > > > >> 2) there is included a mix of indy and non-indy builds of
> different
> > > > >> modules. This is not necessarily bad but does mean we're using
> > > > potentially
> > > > >> less performant pieces of groovy.
> > > > >>   indy) groovysh, json, jsr223
> > > > >>   non-indy) console, swing, templates, xml
> > > > >> 3) Install command doesn't support classifier parameter.  I'm not
> > > aware
> > > > of
> > > > >> anyone complaining about this before so it's not necessarily an
> > issue
> > > in
> > > > >> itself. However, if we were to desire that all groovy modules be
> > > > >> indy-only,
> > > > >> then classifier support would be required.  But then I don't know
> > how
> > > to
> > > > >> prevent the non-indy dependencies of that module from being
> > > downloaded.
> > > > It
> > > > >> seems like a mix would always occur.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> There is one simple solution interestingly enough:  depend only on
> > > > >> groovy-all-indy.  Not only does this keep all indy modules
> > consistent
> > > > and
> > > > >> prevent non-indy conflicts/duplicates, it actually shrinks the
> > > > >> distribution
> > > > >> size by 4M.  This is from not distributing the duplicate non-indy
> > > > version
> > > > >> of groovy and because groovy-all isn't much bigger than the
> separate
> > > > >> modules we have now.  The other benefit is that we can reduce
> groovy
> > > > >> dependencies down to a single module across the project.  The
> > > > alternative
> > > > >> is ugly - having a direct dependency on each module in the
> > dependency
> > > > tree
> > > > >> and having an excludes on each of those dependencies to prevent
> them
> > > > from
> > > > >> loading the non-indy deps.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> In conclusion, instead of removing groovy-sql, I am proposing that
> > > > instead
> > > > >> we replace all groovy deps with groovy-all-indy.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thoughts?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Stephen, are the groovy scripts submitted to Gremlin Server
> compiled
> > > > with
> > > > >> invokedynamic?  What about Gremlin Console? I know the groovy
> > console
> > > > does
> > > > >> not have this enabled by default.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 1.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://docs.groovy-lang.org/docs/groovy-2.4.15/html/documentation/invokedynamic-support.html#_two_jars
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Robert Dale
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 9:32 AM Robert Dale <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > No, nothing in the docs. There are some references to
> > > > java.sql.Timestamp
> > > > >> > but only within the context of gryo.  I'll just make an upgrade
> > note
> > > > >> that
> > > > >> > it was removed and if required, it can be installed through the
> > > > :install
> > > > >> > command.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Robert Dale
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 6:34 AM Stephen Mallette <
> > > > [email protected]>
> > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >> I think groovy-sql was there because there was a time when I
> was
> > > into
> > > > >> >> polyglot data transforms in Gremlin and groovy-sql enabled you
> to
> > > > >> connect
> > > > >> >> to JDBC data sources in a nice way. So, I included groovy-sql
> as
> > a
> > > > >> >> convenience. I'm not against removing it, though I think we
> > should
> > > > >> remove
> > > > >> >> it in 3.4.0 only in case someone is currently depending on it
> > > > >> indirectly.
> > > > >> >> Please try to double check that we aren't using groovy-sql in
> any
> > > of
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> >> documentation for some odd example or something.
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 5:20 PM Robert Dale <[email protected]
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> > gremlin-driver has a direct dependency on groovy-sql.  I
> > removed
> > > it
> > > > >> in
> > > > >> >> > master and all tests pass (docker/build.sh -i -t -n) so there
> > > does
> > > > >> not
> > > > >> >> > appear to be any direct or indirect usage.
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > Why is it there? Looks like it was pulled in because of
> > > > >> >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TINKERPOP-713
> > > > >> >> > However, groovy-sql does not appear to be a dependency of
> > > > >> >> groovy-console or
> > > > >> >> > anything groovy (except groovy-all). Wasn't then, isn't now.
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > Any objections to removing it?
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > --
> > > > >> >> > Robert Dale
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > --
> > > Robert Dale
> > >
> >
> --
> Robert Dale
>

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