yes - reviews/comments are open to anyone interested. i will share it with
you - it's a PDF in google drive.

On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 12:07 PM Josh Perryman <[email protected]> wrote:

> If comments are welcome from outside of the regular committers, I'd enjoy a
> chance to see it as well.
>
> And thanks for all of the work that each of you does.  Those of us that
> consume the results of your efforts appreciate the care each of you takes
> in moving this technology forward.
>
> -Josh
>
> Josh Perryman
>
> Data Junkie, Big Graph Guy
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> On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 9:29 AM Jason Plurad <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > +1 I'd like to review it. Thanks, Stephen.
> > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 4:03 AM Stephen Mallette <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > We've had many discussion on this list about what TP4 will be. We've
> > > migrated a number of those ideas to the "future" scratchpad[1]. We've
> > even
> > > introduced a number of concepts to TP3 which will help form the basis
> for
> > > TP4, like with() for provider specific instructions and Jorge's neat
> new
> > > work on the binary serialization format[2] which looks really
> promising.
> > > There have been numerous blog posts that created a lot of the thinking
> > for
> > > what TP4 should be about as well[3][4].
> > >
> > > Parallel to the TP4 design strategy is the position TinkerPop takes in
> > the
> > > graph community. We want that position clear for users so that they are
> > > aware of the benefits they gain by considering TinkerPop-enabled
> systems.
> > > We want that position clear to graph providers, so that they can feel
> > > confident that fully leveraging/supporting TinkerPop is in their best
> > > interest and yields them the greatest flexibility/capability in
> building
> > > their offering. Finally, we want this position clear for ourselves so
> > that
> > > we can use it to help guide TP4 decision making along those lines.
> Months
> > > ago, I conveyed my thoughts on our positioning informally on our
> mailing
> > > lists[5].
> > >
> > > The problem here is that these thoughts and works are spread unevenly
> > > across a lot of different places. Marko recently set to work with
> > > collaboration from me to help drag all of these things together into a
> > > single coherent document. This document explains the history of the
> > > TinkerPop project in relation to its lore (never previously unified or
> > > fully explained) and describes the vision for TP4 using that background
> > > context.
> > >
> > > There are no timelines for TP4 at the moment save for perhaps a
> starting
> > > date in the middle of 2019 somewhere...hard to say when such
> development
> > > would end obviously and I wouldn't venture to guess. The document does
> > not
> > > yet address compatibility which I think should be rectified - going to
> > > suggest that to Marko today. I think forward/backward compatibility
> > seems
> > > achievable given bytecode i.e. it's just translating TP3 bytecode to
> TP4
> > > bytecode (or the reverse). I'd like to keep compatibility forefront in
> > our
> > > minds to try to make adoption and transition as smooth as possible.
> > >
> > > At this point, we would be interested in feedback that could be
> > > incorporated into the document from the community. The dev list strips
> > > attachments and I don't really want to make this document widely
> released
> > > yet (i.e. put it on the general internet) so if you are interested in
> > > reviewing a copy, please just reply to this thread and I will share the
> > PDF
> > > with you. Please continue to discuss feedback here on this thread
> though.
> > >
> > >
> > > [1] http://tinkerpop.apache.org/docs/current/dev/future/
> > > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TINKERPOP-1942
> > > [3] https://www.datastax.com/dev/blog/the-von-gremlin-architecture
> > > [4]
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://www.datastax.com/dev/blog/a-gremlin-implementation-of-the-gremlin-traversal-machine
> > > [5]
> > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/gremlin-users/czzHhYsbEmg/htgJGF4iBAAJ
> > >
> >
>

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