Hi Marko,

I think this does satisfy your requirements, though I don't think I
understand all aspects the approach, especially the need for
TinkerPop-specific types *for basic scalar values* like booleans, strings,
and numbers. Since we are committed to the native data types supported by
the JVM, I think it is OK to use a subset of them as the basis for a
TinkerPop type system. E.g. while a formal type system might define "long"
as a signed 64-bit integer, the Long class is an appropriate
implementation; while it doesn't hurt to wrap Long in a TinkerPop-specific
TLong class, I am not sure it is necessary. Maybe there is more to your
get(), or other methods you would like to attach to these types, than I see.

To my mind, your approach is headed in the direction of a
TinkerPop-specific notion of a *type*, in general, which captures the
structure and constraints of a logical data type
<https://www.slideshare.net/joshsh/a-graph-is-a-graph-is-a-graph-equivalence-transformation-and-composition-of-graph-data-models-129403012/42>,
and which can be used for query planning and optimization. These include
both scalar types as well as vertex, edge, and property types, as well as
more generic constructs such as optionals, lists, records.

Miscellaneous thoughts:

Can a TList really only contain primitives? A list of vertices or edges
would definitely be unusual, and typical PG implementations may not choose
to support them, but language-agnostic VM possibly should. They would
nicely capture RDF lists, in which list nodes typically do not have any
properties (edges) other than rdf:first and rdf:rest.

For hypergraphs, an inV and outV which may produce more than one vertex, is
one way to go, but a labeled hypergraph should really have other projections
<https://www.slideshare.net/joshsh/a-graph-is-a-graph-is-a-graph-equivalence-transformation-and-composition-of-graph-data-models-129403012/49>
in addition to inV, outV. That suggests a more generic step than inV or
outV, which takes as an argument the name of the projection as well as the
in/out element. E.g. project("in", v1), project("out", v1),
project("subject", v1).

For undirected graphs, we might as well just allow both in() and out()
rather than throwing exceptions. You can think of an undirected edge as a
pair of directed edges.

Agreed that provider-specific structures (types) are OK, and should not be
discouraged. Not only do different providers have their own data models,
but specific applications have their own schemas. A structure like a
metaproperty may be allowed in certain contexts and not others, and the
same goes for instances of conventional structures like edges of a certain
label.

For multi-properties, there is a distinction to be made between multiple
properties with the same key and element, and single collection-valued
properties. This is something the PG Working Group has been grappling with.
I think both should be allowed.

IMO it's OK if URIs, in an RDF context, become Strings in a TP context. You
can think of URI as a constraint on String, which should be enforced at the
appropriate time, but does not require a vendor-specific class. Can you
concatenate two URIs? Sure... just concatenate the Strings, but also be
aware that the result is not a URI.

Josh



On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 5:06 AM Marko Rodriguez <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have a consolidated approach to handling data structures in TP4. I would
> appreciate any feedback you many have.
>
>         1. Every object processed by TinkerPop has a TinkerPop-specific
> type.
>                 - TLong, TInteger, TString, TMap, TVertex, TEdge, TPath,
> TList, …
>                 - BENEFIT #1: A universal type system will protect us from
> language platform peculiarities (e.g. Python long vs Java long).
>                 - BENEFIT #2: The serialization format is constrained and
> consistent across all languages platforms. (no more coming across a
> MySpecialClass).
>         2. All primitive T-type data can be directly access via get().
>                 - TBoolean.get() -> java.lang.Boolean | System.Boolean |
> ...
>                 - TLong.get() -> java.lang.Long | System.Int64 | ...
>                 - TString.get() -> java.lang.String | System.String | …
>                 - TList.get() -> java.lang.ArrayList | .. // can only
> contain primitives
>                 - TMap.get() -> java.lang.LinkedHashMap | .. // can only
> contain primitives
>                 - ...
>         3. All complex T-types have no methods! (except those afforded by
> Object)
>                 - TVertex: no accessible methods.
>                 - TEdge: no accessible methods.
>                 - TRow: no accessible methods.
>                 - TDocument: no accessible methods.
>                 - TDocumentArray: no accessible methods. // a document
> list field that can contain complex objects
>                 - ...
>
> REQUIREMENT #1: We need to be able to support multiple graphdbs in the
> same query.
>                 - e.g., read from JanusGraph and write to Neo4j.
> REQUIREMENT #2: We need to make sure complex objects can not be queried
> client-side for properties/edges/etc. data.
>                 - e.g., vertices are universally assumed to be “detached."
> REQUIREMENT #3: We no longer want to maintain a structure test suite.
> Operational semantics should be verified via Bytecode ->
> Processor/Structure.
>                 - i.e., the only way to read/write vertices is via
> Bytecode as complex T-types don’t have APIs.
> REQUIREMENT #4: We should support other database data structures besides
> graph.
>                 - e.g., reading from MySQL and writing to JanusGraph.
>
> ———
>
> Assume the following TraversalSource:
>
> g.withStructure(JanusGraphStructure.class, config1).
>   withStructure(Neo4jStructure.class, conflg2)
>
> Now, assume the following traversal fragment:
>
>         outE(’knows’).has(’stars’,5).inV()
>
>  This would initially be written to Bytecode as:
>
>         [[outE,knows],[has,stars,5],[inV]]
>
> A decoration strategy realizes that there are two structures registered in
> the Bytecode source instructions and would rewrite the above as:
>
>         [choose,[[type,TVertex]],[[outE,knows],[has,stars,5],[inV]]]
>
> A JanusGraph strategy would rewrite this as:
>
>
> [choose,[[type,TVertex]],[[outE,knows],[has,stars,5],[inV]],[[type,JanusVertex]],[[jg:vertexCentric,out,knows,stars,5]]]
>
> A Neo4j strategy would rewrite this as:
>
>
> [choose,[[type,TVertex]],[[outE,knows],[has,stars,5],[inV]],[[type,JanusVertex]],[[jg:vertexCentric,out,knows,stars,5]],[[type,Neo4jVertex]],[[neo:outE,knows],[neo:has,stars,5],[neo:inV]]]
>
> A finalization strategy would rewrite this as:
>
>
> [choose,[[type,JanusVertex]],[[jg:vertexCentric,out,knows,stars,5]],[[type,Neo4jVertex]],[[neo:outE,knows],[neo:has,stars,5],[neo:inV]]]
>
> Now, when a TVertex gets to this CFunction, it will check its type, if its
> a JanusVertex, it goes down the JanusGraph-specific instruction branch. If
> the type is Neo4jVertex, it goes down the Neo4j-specific instruction branch.
>
>         REQUIREMENT #1 SOLVED
>
> The last instruction of the root bytecode can not return a complex object.
> If so, an exception is thrown. g.V() is illegal. g.V().id() is legal.
> Complex objects do not exist outside the TP4-VM. Only primitives can leave
> the VM-client barrier. If you want vertex property data (e.g.), you have to
> access it and return it within the traversal — e.g., g.V().valueMap().
>         BENEFIT #1: Language variant implementations are simple. Just
> primitives.
>         BENEFIT #2: The serialization specification is simple. Just
> primitives. (also, note that Bytecode is just a TList of primitives! —
> though TBytecode will exist.)
>         BENEFIT #3: The concept of a “DetachedVertex” is universally
> assumed.
>
>         REQUIREMENT #2 SOLVED
>
> It is completely up to the structure provider to use structure-specific
> instructions for dealing with their particular TVertex. They will have to
> provide CFunction implementations for out, in, both, has, outE, inE, bothE,
> drop, property, value, id, label … (seems like a lot, but out/in/both could
> be one parameterized CFunction).
>         BENEFIT #1: No more structure/ API and structure/ test suite.
>         BENEFIT #2: The structure provider has full control of where the
> vertex data is stored (cached in memory or fetch from the db or a cut
> vertex or …). No assumptions are made by the TP4-VM.
>         BENEFIT #3: The structure provider can safely assume their
> vertices will not be accessed outside the TP4-VM (outside the processor).
>
>         REQUIREMENT #3 SOLVED
>
> We can support TRow for relational databases. A TRow’s data is accessible
> via the instructions has, hasKey, value, property, id, ... The location of
> the data in TRow is completely up to the structure provider and its
> strategy analysis (if only ’name’ is accessed, then SELECT ’name’ FROM...).
> We can easily support TDocument for document databases. A TDocument’s data
> is accessible via the instructions has, hasKey, value, property, id, … A
> value() could return yet another TDocument (or a TDocumentArray containing
> TDocuments).
>
> Supporting a new complex type is simply a function of asking:
>
>         “Does the TP4 VM instruction set have the requisite
> instruction-types (semantically) to manipulate this structure?"
>
> We are no longer playing the language-specific object API game. We are
> playing the language-agnostic VM instruction game. The TP4-VM instruction
> set is the sole determiner of what complex objects can be processed. (i.e.
> what data structures can be processed without impedance mismatch).
>
>         REQUIREMENT #4 SOLVED
>
> ———
>
> The TP4-VM (and, in turn, Gremlin) can naturally support:
>
>         1. Property graphs: as currently supported in TP3.
>         2. RDF graphs: id() is a URI | Literal. g.V(1).value(‘foaf:name’)
> returns multi/meta-properties *or* g.V(1).out(‘foaf:name’) returns vertices
> whose id()s are xsd:string literals.
>         3. Hypergraphs: inV() can return more than one vertex.
>         4. Undirected graphs: in() and out() throw exceptions. Only both()
> works.
>         5. Meta-properties: value(‘name’) can return a TVertexProperty  (a
> special complex object that is structure provider specific — and that is
> okay!).
>         6. Multi-properties: value(‘name’) can return a TPropertyArray of
> TVertexProperty objects.
>
> This means that the same instruction can behave differently for different
> structures. This is okay as there can be property graph, RDF, hypergraph,
> etc. test suites.
>
> Since complex objects don’t leave the TP4-VM barrier, providers can create
> any complex objects they want — they just have to have corresponding
> strategies to create provider-unique bytecode instructions (and thus,
> CFunctions) for those complex objects.
>
> Finally. there are a few of problems to work out:
>         - There is no way to yield a “v[1]” or “e[3][v[1]-knows->v[2]]”
> representation. Is that bad? Perhaps not.
>         - What is the nature of a TPath? Its complex, but we want to
> return it.
>         - g.V().id() on an RDF graph can return a URI. Is a URI “simple”?
> No, the set of simple types should never grow!…. thus, URI => String. Is
> that wack?
>         - Do we add g.R() and g.D() to Gremlin to type-support TRow and
> TDocument objects. g.V() would be weird :( … Hmmmm?
>                 - However, there are only so many data structures……. or
> are there? TMatrix, TXML, …. whoa.
>
> Thanks for reading,
> Marko.
>
> http://rredux.com <http://rredux.com/>
>
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