Thanks for the update - I'll reacquaint myself with the process and get things moving along again on our end now that this step is settled. :)
On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 1:41 PM Øyvind Sæbø <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, I'm back again with an update on the ongoing Gremlint IP clearance > progress: > Today the CCLA was signed by our CEO, so we aim to have my signed ICLA and > the CCLA sent to [email protected] as soon as possible. > > fre. 8. jan. 2021 kl. 09:24 skrev Øyvind Sæbø <[email protected]>: > > > Happy new year! > > > > Update on the Gremlint IP clearance process: > > We filled out the CCLA yesterday and are just waiting for it to be signed > > by our CEO. > > We'll submit it together with the ICLA as soon as it's ready. > > > > man. 7. des. 2020 kl. 13:18 skrev Stephen Mallette <[email protected] > >: > > > >> Thanks for all the updates - it sounds as though we are getting closer > to > >> having to do more things on this side. Once the I/CCLAs are acknowledged > >> by > >> Apache I'll go back and revisit the documentation on this process to see > >> what happens next. > >> > >> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 9:05 AM Øyvind Sæbø <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> > Hi again, I'm here with an update on the Gremlint IP clearance > process:) > >> > > >> > Yesterday I added the ASF source file headers to all the gremlint > source > >> > files (link to commit > >> > < > >> > > >> > https://github.com/OyvindSabo/gremlint/commit/9010a706ceaa4102886294a860d5fbac152ca08b > >> > >) > >> > and all the gremlint.com source files (link to commit > >> > < > >> > > >> > https://github.com/OyvindSabo/gremlint.com/commit/60150a52d1baed330e16d2b70a8ac84f0aa5d4b4 > >> > >) > >> > and updated both repos to use the Apache License Version 2.0. I hope I > >> did > >> > that correctly. > >> > I also filled out the ICLA and will submit it together with the CCLA > >> once > >> > it's signed by the right people at Ardoq. I was hoping to see this > done > >> by > >> > the end of the week, but seeing as it's only one workday left, I guess > >> > we'll just have to wait and see. > >> > > >> > fre. 27. nov. 2020 kl. 19:24 skrev Øyvind Sæbø <[email protected] > >: > >> > > >> > > By > >> > >> the way, can gremlint still run completely in browser or does it > need > >> > >> nodejs at this point? > >> > > > >> > > Yes, it's still possible to run it purely in the browser. This is > >> still > >> > > how it's used on Gremlint.com. > >> > > > >> > > Would it help make any of your work easier if there were an actual > >> antlr > >> > >> grammar for Gremlin? > >> > > > >> > > I'm not sure. I don't have any experience with it, but I'll look > into > >> it. > >> > > > >> > > .NET might not be hard to format but I sense translation will not be > >> easy > >> > >> given how easily Gremlin loses types > >> > >> > >> > > Good point. > >> > > > >> > > As for progress news, we managed to wrap up the internal Gremlint IP > >> > > transfer process this week, so I hope we can fill out the ICLA and > >> CCLA > >> > > next week. I'll add the ASF licence headers to the files early next > >> week > >> > as > >> > > well. > >> > > > >> > > ons. 25. nov. 2020 kl. 12:57 skrev Stephen Mallette < > >> > [email protected] > >> > > >: > >> > > > >> > >> On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 3:49 PM Øyvind Sæbø <[email protected] > > > >> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > Yes, I think it makes sense to continue with the general > >> discussion in > >> > >> the > >> > >> > meantime:) It could also help make sure that I don't develop > >> Gremlint > >> > >> in a > >> > >> > direction which will impose unnecessary restrictions in the > future. > >> > I've > >> > >> > included some of my thoughts to your questions below: > >> > >> > > >> > >> > 1. > >> > >> > Gremlint is currently an installable JavaScript package, so for > all > >> > >> > JavaScript projects using npm it can already be installed and > >> called > >> > as > >> > >> a > >> > >> > function. I imagine it would also be easy to set up a > >> > >> Gremlint-as-a-service > >> > >> > API with Node.js to work with non-JavaScript projects. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> At the risk of greater complexity to documentation generation > >> perhaps a > >> > >> local nodejs service might work. A shame nashorn never quite took > >> off or > >> > >> else we could have perhaps embedded it for more direct usage with > >> > Gremlin > >> > >> Console. I wonder if we could actually get rid of Gremlin Console > >> usage > >> > >> though if there was a more convenient way to do > >> formatting/translation. > >> > By > >> > >> the way, can gremlint still run completely in browser or does it > need > >> > >> nodejs at this point? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > 2 & 4. > >> > >> > I think Gremlint as a translator could make sense. Currently it > >> > >> essentially > >> > >> > just translates Groovy-Gremlin to an (almost) language-agnostic > >> syntax > >> > >> > tree, adds formatting information based on a config object and > then > >> > >> > recreates a Groovy Gremlin query. But it could just as well > >> recreate > >> > the > >> > >> > query as a JavaScript or Python Gremlin query. I think it would > be > >> > >> > relatively easy to make Gremlint translate from any Groovy-esque > >> > Gremlin > >> > >> > implementation to another Gremlin implementation by simply > >> replacing > >> > the > >> > >> > function which is currently used to recreate the query from the > >> > >> formatted > >> > >> > syntax tree. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> Would it help make any of your work easier if there were an actual > >> antlr > >> > >> grammar for Gremlin? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > 3. > >> > >> > I've already tried to keep Gremlint a bit language agnostic by > >> leaving > >> > >> all > >> > >> > non-Gremlin code around and between queries unaltered. In most > >> cases, > >> > >> any > >> > >> > code Gremlint doesn't understand inside a query is just handled > as > >> if > >> > it > >> > >> > was a single word, and left as is. I'm not too familiar with > >> > >> > language-specific differences between different > >> > Gremlin-implementations, > >> > >> > but it is my impression that it should already handle JavaScript > >> > Gremlin > >> > >> > quite well. For .NET I assume I would need to add support for > more > >> > than > >> > >> > just single-quote strings (this would come in handy for all > >> > languages), > >> > >> and > >> > >> > for Python Gremlin it would need to handle backslashes between > each > >> > new > >> > >> > line of the query. Gremlin for Clojure would probably be more > >> > >> challenging > >> > >> > (fun fact: The Gremlint parser is actually based on a Clojure > >> parser I > >> > >> > wrote earlier). > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> .NET might not be hard to format but I sense translation will not > be > >> > easy > >> > >> given how easily Gremlin loses types > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Food for thought: > >> > >> > One thing I've been a bit back and forth on is whether it would > be > >> > >> > preferable if Gremlint is super-robust and accepts and formats > any > >> > >> language > >> > >> > you pass it with minimal configuration, or if it should only > accept > >> > one > >> > >> > Gremlin implementation "at once" and require the user to manually > >> > >> specify > >> > >> > the language of their input. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> From the perspective of a user interface, I don't think it's > >> necessary > >> > to > >> > >> have too much magic. Ifi t could simply detect a language and make > a > >> > good > >> > >> guess at it and then allow users more fine grained control from > there > >> > that > >> > >> would be pretty impressive, but if they had to wholly make the step > >> of > >> > >> selecting the language themselves I don't think that's terrible. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > fre. 20. nov. 2020 kl. 14:53 skrev Stephen Mallette < > >> > >> [email protected] > >> > >> > >: > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > Thanks for another update. Nice to know you're still moving > along > >> > with > >> > >> > > improvements there. Perhaps we could continue with general > >> > discussions > >> > >> > > about Gremlint while we wait for legal issues to settle? For > >> > instance, > >> > >> > one > >> > >> > > of the things on my mind is how to make gremlint functionality > as > >> > >> > available > >> > >> > > as possible to the various use cases we say each day. > Obviously, > >> it > >> > >> > > currently handles the most common one of providing a place to > >> paste > >> > >> some > >> > >> > > Gremlin in a UI and get back formatted Gremlin. What about > other > >> > >> things: > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > 1. there are many Gremlin "development environments (e.g. > >> gremlify, > >> > >> > Gremlin > >> > >> > > Console, notebooks, etc) - how can gremlint be available to > them? > >> > >> > > 2. we are working on Gremlin translators in all languages - > which > >> > >> might > >> > >> > > actually allow us to generate documentation using a single > source > >> > for > >> > >> > > Gremlin with translation to all the others. But, that can only > >> work > >> > >> if we > >> > >> > > have something like Gremlint to format those translations. How > >> would > >> > >> > > gremlint fit in there? > >> > >> > > 3. gremlint (i think) is generally good at formatting the > >> > Groovy/Java > >> > >> > > syntax - what will it entail to make it so that it's capable of > >> > >> dealing > >> > >> > > with other languages like Python, .NET etc. > >> > >> > > 4. thinking more about 2, I wonder how gremlint fits with > >> > translators. > >> > >> > the > >> > >> > > two seem quite related to me, but i'm not sure what that means. > >> it > >> > >> seems > >> > >> > > cool if you could take a bit of Gremlin Groovy, paste it into > >> > gremlint > >> > >> > then > >> > >> > > translate/lint to Gremlin Javascript. > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > I'm just posing questions here for us to discuss a bit. Answers > >> are > >> > >> great > >> > >> > > but more questions would also be welcome if anyone has any. > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 2:11 AM Øyvind Sæbø < > >> [email protected]> > >> > >> > wrote: > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > Hello everyone and happy November. > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > I requested another update on when the Gremlint paperwork > >> process > >> > >> would > >> > >> > > be > >> > >> > > > done yesterday. It seems like it has been pushed back once > >> again, > >> > >> the > >> > >> > new > >> > >> > > > estimate being two weeks from now. > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > I figured I should give some context on why this is taking > >> longer > >> > >> than > >> > >> > > > expected. After all, filling out the ICLA and CCLA shouldn't > >> take > >> > >> more > >> > >> > > than > >> > >> > > > a day. Since I developed Gremlint in my spare time, and we > >> want to > >> > >> > donate > >> > >> > > > it on behalf of Ardoq, where I work, we have an internal IP > >> > transfer > >> > >> > > > process as well, and this is what has been dragging out. > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > In the meantime I've been trying to make the best of the > >> situation > >> > >> by > >> > >> > > > working my way through the remaining Gremlint issues on > >> GitHub. As > >> > >> part > >> > >> > > of > >> > >> > > > that I've rewritten Gremlint < > >> > >> https://github.com/OyvindSabo/gremlint> > >> > >> > to > >> > >> > > > be > >> > >> > > > a separate package which can be imported in the Gremlint.com > >> > >> website, > >> > >> > > which > >> > >> > > > now resides in a different repository > >> > >> > > > <https://github.com/OyvindSabo/gremlint.com>. > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > Let's hope I can report on more progress next time. > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >
