I have created the YouTube channel today:
https://www.youtube.com/@apachetinkerpop
It's still empty right now. If you have any recommendations for videos we could
share there, then just link them. Maybe we can create some playlists of
existing content from other channels to share.
Unfortunately, we don't have recordings of past events we held on Discord, but
we will probably record most future events and then share them there. ("most"
as there might be valid reasons against recording certain events.)
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Stephen Mallette <spmalle...@gmail.com>
Gesendet: Freitag, 11. November 2022 12:01
An: dev@tinkerpop.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Video channels for Apache TinkerPop related content
Regarding the Confluent/Arthur point, I think that the difference is subtle.
TinkerPop isn't quite like Kafka. TinkerPop has a wider ecosystem that users
interact with to make TinkerPop a useful tool. Therefore having providers in
TinkerPop's content is something users would expect and find useful. The subtle
point here is that Arthur would be talking about G.V() and not TinkerPop. In
other words, he wouldn't be representing that G.V() is TinkerPop and no watcher
of the video would think that TinkerPop was anything other than "Apache
TinkerPop". That isn't quite clear in Confluent's case.
I also think that videos like a G.V() one would not be introduced that way.
A TinkerPop member would host the event and say "I'm Florian from Apache
TinkerPop and we're here to talk with Arthur about G.V() a graph visualization
that works with any Apache TinkerPop-enabled system." I'm not sure it even has
to be that formal, but hopefully the subtle differences are clear.
On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 4:17 AM Florian Hockmann <f...@florian-hockmann.de>
wrote:
> I'd prefer a dedicated TinkerPop channel on YouTube rather than the
> general ASF one since the ASF channel seems to focus on overall ASF
> topics like ASF events and we want to host videos focused on
> TinkerPop. I think having a dedicated TinkerPop channel would
> therefore make it easier for our community to find all TinkerPop related
> videos.
>
> > Also note that we need to publish some guidelines about the videos
> > on the website such as they should be vendor neutral with no
> > branding/product placement etc.
>
> We should definitely clarify with the ASF what kind of rules /
> guidelines we need to follow. I think the following quote for example
> from the linked Kafka mailing list thread is quite harsh:
>
> > Starts with "Hi, I'm Bill Berglund from *Confluent*" rather than
> > "Hi, I'm Bill from Apache Kafka"
>
> Would that mean for us for example that we cannot upload a video from
> a Discord event where, let's say, Arthur presents his G.V() IDE only
> because he introduces himself with "Hi, I'm Arthur, creator of G.V()"
> (just an example, I'm not sure whether he actually said something like that)?
>
> I think such requirements would shrink the number of possible videos
> we could upload considerably down to basically videos that we created
> ourselves as TinkerPop contributors and specifically for that purpose.
>
> I can try to find out what exactly the requirements from the ASF would
> be for a dedicated TinkerPop channel.
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Joshua Shinavier <j...@fortytwo.net>
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 10. November 2022 18:59
> An: dev@tinkerpop.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Video channels for Apache TinkerPop related content
>
> A "TinkerPop" playlist might make sense in that case, though I only
> see event-specific playlists in the channel, rather than
> project-specific ones, currently.
>
> Josh
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 1:07 AM Divij Vaidya <divijvaidy...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > It's a great idea.
> >
> > We had a recent discussion in the Apache Kafka community (see:
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/v4m41pr1kl5fyhkxd5dx32th4kb14hpr)
> > where we asked the ASF about adding videos to the Apache YouTube
> > channel
> itself.
> >
> > Perhaps, we should reach out to press@ASF and do the same?
> >
> > Also note that we need to publish some guidelines about the videos
> > on the website such as they should be vendor neutral with no
> > branding/product placement etc.
> >
> > --
> > Divij Vaidya
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 3:15 PM Joshua Shinavier <j...@fortytwo.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Sounds like a good idea (a YouTube channel; I haven't used Twitch
> > > so
> > can't
> > > comment). If the content is of high quality, we can promote it on
> > > the
> > Graph
> > > Show.
> > >
> > > Josh
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 2:13 AM Florian Hockmann
> > > <f...@florian-hockmann.de>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Taylor,
> > > >
> > > > great idea! I'd definitely welcome a TinkerPop channel on
> > > > YouTube or Twitch. I think YouTube makes more sense for us at
> > > > first given Twitch's focus on live streaming.
> > > > Recorded Discord sessions would of course also be great to
> > > > publish. I think more people are interested in them in general
> > > > than people who actually join live. I personally would at least
> > > > like to watch
> > recordings
> > > of
> > > > some sessions that I couldn't join when they were held.
> > > > Do we already have recordings of past sessions available? But
> > > > even if
> > > not,
> > > > we can at least try to record sessions in the future.
> > > >
> > > > Creating such playlists of conference talks and so on also
> > > > sounds
> > great
> > > 😊
> > > >
> > > > I'd say we wait a few more days to give more people the chance
> > > > to
> > provide
> > > > their feedback and then we can create a channel (assuming that
> > > > the discussion here doesn't indicate something else).
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Florian
> > > >
> > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > > Von: Taylor Riggan <trig...@gmail.com>
> > > > Gesendet: Freitag, 4. November 2022 20:25
> > > > An: dev@tinkerpop.apache.org
> > > > Betreff: Video channels for Apache TinkerPop related content
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Over the last few months we have started having Discord sessions
> > related
> > > > to new projects and features within the TinkerPop community.
> > > > I'm
> > curious
> > > > what folks think of creating an Apache TinkerPop YouTube/Twitch
> > > > channel
> > > for
> > > > hosting recordings of this content (and any future sessions).
> > > > It would also offer a platform for walk-through videos to help
> > > > new users as they
> > > are
> > > > getting started with TinkerPop/Gremlin. On YouTube
> > > > specifically, we
> > > could
> > > > include Playlists of existing content related to TinkerPop that
> > > > is
> > hosted
> > > > on other channels (conference and user group talks from the past).
> > > >
> > > > Looking forward to your feedback and comments.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Taylor Riggan
> > > > @triggan
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
