Understood. Thank you for the clarification. Let’s proceed ahead.

On Wed 12. Apr 2023 at 17:56, Florian Hockmann <f...@florian-hockmann.de>
wrote:

> If you have an idea for how to detect such problems in the future, then
> please go ahead and create an issue.
> But I don't think that they are that easy to spot from my understanding of
> these two specific issues. The Python problem only prevents users from
> using newer aiohttp versions so the test would need to try that to detect
> this problem.
> And the .NET problem also only occurred in some environments.
>
> But in general, I don't think that we need to add this to the board
> report. Those were two very specific problems which were hard to find with
> an automated process. I don't think that they hint at bigger problems with
> our release process or our test suite.
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Divij Vaidya <divijvaidy...@gmail.com>
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. April 2023 17:10
> An: dev@tinkerpop.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] Draft ASF Board Report - April 2023
>
> Do we want to add, how would we prevent recurrence of upgrading problems
> in .Net and the one with Python client in future? Maybe we can create a
> JIRA for integration tests which check for backward compatibility and link
> it to the report.
>
> --
> Divij Vaidya
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 4:51 PM Florian Hockmann <f...@florian-hockmann.de>
> wrote:
>
> > Those are definitely good additions. Thanks for adding them, Yang!
> >
> > I just published the report where I only had to change the fact that
> > the release candidate for Gremlin.Net has now already been published.
> > Here is the final version of the report:
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > ## Description:
> > Apache TinkerPop is a graph computing framework for both graph
> > databases
> > (OLTP) and graph analytic systems (OLAP).
> >
> > ## Issues:
> > There are no issues requiring board attention.
> >
> > ## Membership Data:
> > Community changes, past quarter:
> > - Yang Xia was added to the PMC on 2023-03-15
> > - Ken Hu was added as committer on 2023-02-27
> >
> > ## Project Activity:
> > TinkerPop released versions 3.5.5 and 3.6.2 in the last quarter. These
> > releases were mostly maintenance releases. One noteworthy improvement
> > in these releases is how the Java gremlin-driver deals with
> > temporarily unavailable hosts to make the driver much more resilient
> > to intermittent network failures.
> >
> > Unfortunately, these releases introduced some pain points for users.
> > One being the gremlin-python aiohttp dependency version too restrict:
> > TINKERPOP-2810 [1], which has been resolved in a gremlin-python
> > 3.6.3rc1/3.5.6rc1 release.
> >
> > Another is a new bug that prevents some .NET users from upgrading:
> > TINKERPOP-2918. [2] A fix for this problem was already provided by
> > contributor Daniel C. Weber and we have published a release candidate
> > of Gremlin.Net with this fix.
> >
> > We continue the maintenance work on 3.5.x/3.6.x. A notable achievement
> > by Ken Hu was to resolve a long standing performance issue with the
> > Groovy
> > dependency: TINKERPOP-2526 [3], which drastically improved
> > gremlin-console performance, as well as the length of time for
> documentation generation.
> > This
> > fix also enabled the Groovy 4 upgrade in 3.7.0.
> >
> > We are also continuing our work on the upcoming major release 3.7.0.
> > One noteworthy improvement that was implemented in the past quarter is
> > a change in how elements are returned by default. Until now, we only
> > return those elements without their properties in most cases which has
> > been confusing to users.
> > This
> > will be changed in 3.7.0 where such elements, like vertices or edges,
> > are returned with their properties by default.[4] Users will of course
> > still be able to configure a different behavior if they want to.
> >
> > ### Releases:
> > 3.5.5 was released on 2023-01-16.
> > 3.6.2 was released on 2023-01-16.
> >
> > ## Community Health:
> > As already mentioned in the last board report, we have created a
> > YouTube channel for TinkerPop to host recordings of our live
> > events.[5] We have additionally created a Twitch channel [6] where we
> > now host our live events to make it easier for interested users to
> > join them as no account is needed for that like it was for Discord
> > where we held our events previously. We already had four different
> > events on Twitch in the last quarter for which recordings are now
> > available on the YouTube channel:
> >
> > * TinkerPop Wide: G.V() 2023 Roadmap with Q&A - Presenter: Arthur
> Bigeard -
> >   lead developer of G.V()
> >
> > * Contributorcast: Apache TinkerPop 3.5.5/3.6.2 Post-Release Review -
> >   Presenter: Yang Xia, Valentyn Kahamlyk, Cole Greer, and Ken Hu
> >
> > * TinkerPop Wide: Back to the Future - Time Travelling with Gremlin in
> >   ChronoGraph - Presenter:  Martin Häusler - author of ChronoGraph
> >
> > * TinkerPop Wide: New Features of Amazon Neptune 1.2.1.0 - Presenter:
> > Kelvin
> >   Lawrence, Dave Bechberger, and Stephen Mallette
> >
> > We have also established some guidelines to host these events / upload
> > videos.
> > These guidelines will be part of our official documentation with the
> > next release but they can already be found in our git repository: [7].
> >
> >
> > ## Links
> > [1]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TINKERPOP-2810
> > [2]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TINKERPOP-2918
> > [3]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TINKERPOP-2526
> > [4]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TINKERPOP-2824
> > [5]: https://www.youtube.com/@apachetinkerpop
> > [6]: https://www.twitch.tv/apachetinkerpop
> > [7]:
> > https://github.com/apache/tinkerpop/blob/master/docs/src/dev/developer
> > /for-committers.asciidoc#media-content-submission
> >
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Yang Xia <ya...@bitquilltech.com.INVALID>
> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 6. April 2023 00:34
> > An: dev@tinkerpop.apache.org
> > Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] Draft ASF Board Report - April 2023
> >
> > Hi Florian,
> >
> > Thank you for putting together the draft report. I think it looks
> > good. I just wanted to add a couple of items for the Project Activity
> > section, which included links that would mess up the original order,
> > so I just copied the whole draft in to edit. Feel free to edit it
> further.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Yang
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > ## Description:
> >
> > Apache TinkerPop is a graph computing framework for both graph
> > databases(OLTP) and graph analytic systems (OLAP).
> >
> >
> > ## Issues:
> >
> > There are no issues requiring board attention.
> >
> >
> > ## Membership Data:
> >
> > Community changes, past quarter:
> >
> > - Yang Xia was added to the PMC on 2023-03-15
> >
> > - Ken Hu was added as committer on 2023-02-27
> >
> >
> > ## Project Activity:
> >
> > TinkerPop released versions 3.5.5 and 3.6.2 in the last quarter. These
> > releases were mostly maintenance releases. One noteworthy improvement
> > in these releases is how the Java gremlin-driver deals with
> > temporarily unavailable hosts to make the driver much more resilient
> > to intermittent network failures.
> >
> > Unfortunately, these releases introduced some pain points for users.
> > One being the gremlin-python aiohttp dependency version too restrict:
> > TINKERPOP-2810 [1], which has been resolved in a gremlin-python
> > 3.6.3rc1/3.5.6rc1 release.
> >
> > Another is a new bug that prevents some .NET users from upgrading:
> > TINKERPOP-2918. [2] A fix for this problem was already provided by
> > contributor Daniel C. Weber and we plan to publish a release candidate
> > of our .NET library Gremlin.Net with this fix shortly.
> >
> > We continue the maintenance work on 3.5.x/3.6.x. A notable achievement
> > by Ken Hu was to resolve a long standing performance issue with the
> > Groovy
> > dependency: TINKERPOP-2526 [3], which drastically improved
> > gremlin-console performance, as well as the length of time for
> documentation generation.
> > This fix also enabled the Groovy 4 upgrade in 3.7.0.
> >
> > We are also continuing our work on the upcoming major release 3.7.0.
> > One noteworthy improvement that was implemented in the past quarter is
> > a change in how elements are returned by default. Until now, we only
> > return those elements without their properties in most cases which has
> > been confusing to users. This will be changed in 3.7.0 where such
> > elements, like vertices or edges, are returned with their properties
> > by default.[4] Users will of course still be able to configure a
> different behavior if they want to.
> >
> >
> > ### Releases:
> >
> > 3.5.5 was released on 2023-01-16.
> >
> > 3.6.2 was released on 2023-01-16.
> >
> >
> > ## Community Health:
> >
> > As already mentioned in the last board report, we have created a
> > YouTube channel for TinkerPop to host recordings of our live
> > events.[5] We have additionally created a Twitch channel [6] where we
> > now host our live events to make it easier for interested users to
> > join them as no account is needed for that like it was for Discord
> > where we held our events previously. We already had four different
> > events on Twitch in the last quarter for which recordings are now
> available on the YouTube channel:
> >
> > * TinkerPop Wide: G.V() 2023 Roadmap with Q&A - Presenter: Arthur
> > Bigeard
> > - lead developer of G.V()
> >
> > * Contributorcast: Apache TinkerPop 3.5.5/3.6.2 Post-Release Review -
> > Presenter: Yang Xia, Valentyn Kahamlyk, Cole Greer, and Ken Hu
> >
> > * TinkerPop Wide: Back to the Future - Time Travelling with Gremlin in
> > ChronoGraph - Presenter:  Martin Häusler - author of ChronoGraph
> >
> > * TinkerPop Wide: New Features of Amazon Neptune 1.2.1.0 - Presenter:
> > Kelvin Lawrence, Dave Bechberger, and Stephen Mallette
> >
> > We have also established some guidelines to host these events / upload
> > videos. These guidelines will be part of our official documentation
> > with the next release but they can already be found in our git
> repository: [7].
> >
> >
> > ## Links
> >
> > [1]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TINKERPOP-2810
> >
> > [2]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TINKERPOP-2918
> >
> > [3]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TINKERPOP-2526
> >
> > [4]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TINKERPOP-2824
> >
> > [5]: https://www.youtube.com/@apachetinkerpop
> >
> > [6]: https://www.twitch.tv/apachetinkerpop
> >
> > [7]:
> >
> > https://github.com/apache/tinkerpop/blob/master/docs/src/dev/developer
> > /for-c ommitters.asciidoc#media-content-submission
> > <https://github.com/apache/tinkerpop/blob/master/docs/src/dev/develope
> > r/for-committers.asciidoc#media-content-submission>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 5, 2023 at 6:29 AM Florian Hockmann
> > <f...@florian-hockmann.de>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Here is the attached draft of our board report for this quarter –
> > > please let me know if there is anything to add or edit.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > --
> > > ----
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ## Description:
> > >
> > > Apache TinkerPop is a graph computing framework for both graph
> > > databases
> > >
> > > (OLTP) and graph analytic systems (OLAP).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ## Issues:
> > >
> > > There are no issues requiring board attention.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ## Membership Data:
> > >
> > > Community changes, past quarter:
> > >
> > > - Yang Xia was added to the PMC on 2023-03-15
> > >
> > > - Ken Hu was added as committer on 2023-02-27
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ## Project Activity:
> > >
> > > TinkerPop released versions 3.5.5 and 3.6.2 in the last quarter.
> > > These releases
> > >
> > > were mostly maintenance releases. One noteworthy improvement in
> > > these releases
> > >
> > > is how the Java gremlin-driver deals with temporarily unavailable
> > > hosts to make
> > >
> > > the driver much more resilient to intermittent network failures.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, these releases introduced a new bug that prevent some
> > > .NET users
> > >
> > > from upgrading: TINKERPOP-2918.[1]
> > >
> > > A fix for this problem was already provided by contributor Daniel C.
> > > Weber and
> > >
> > > we plan to publish a release candidate of our .NET library
> > > Gremlin.Net with
> > >
> > > this fix shortly.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > We are also continuing our work on the upcoming major release 3.7.0.
> > > One
> > >
> > > noteworthy improvement that was implemented in the past quarter is a
> > > change in
> > >
> > > how elements are returned by default. Until now, we only return
> > > those elements
> > >
> > > without their properties in most cases which has been confusing to
> users.
> > >
> > > This will be changed in 3.7.0 where such elements, like vertices or
> > > edges, are
> > >
> > > returned with their properties by default.[2] Users will of course
> > > still be able
> > >
> > > to configure a different behavior if they want to.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ### Releases:
> > >
> > > 3.5.5 was released on 2023-01-16.
> > >
> > > 3.6.2 was released on 2023-01-16.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ## Community Health:
> > >
> > > As already mentioned in the last board report, we have created a
> > > YouTube
> > >
> > > channel for TinkerPop to host recordings of our live events.[3] We
> > > have
> > >
> > > additionally created a Twitch channel [4] where we now host our live
> > > events to
> > >
> > > make it easier for interested users to join them as no account is
> > > needed for
> > >
> > > that like it was for Discord where we held our events previously.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > We already had four different events on Twitch in the last quarter
> > > for which
> > >
> > > recordings are now available on the YouTube channel:
> > >
> > > * TinkerPop Wide: G.V() 2023 Roadmap with Q&A - Presenter: Arthur
> > > Bigeard -
> > >
> > >   lead developer of G.V()
> > >
> > > * Contributorcast: Apache TinkerPop 3.5.5/3.6.2 Post-Release Review
> > > -
> > >
> > >   Presenter: Yang Xia, Valentyn Kahamlyk, Cole Greer, and Ken Hu
> > >
> > > * TinkerPop Wide: Back to the Future - Time Travelling with Gremlin
> > > in
> > >
> > >   ChronoGraph - Presenter:  Martin Häusler - author of ChronoGraph
> > >
> > > * TinkerPop Wide: New Features of Amazon Neptune 1.2.1.0 - Presenter:
> > > Kelvin
> > >
> > >   Lawrence, Dave Bechberger, and Stephen Mallette
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > We have also established some guidelines to host these events /
> > > upload videos.
> > >
> > > These guidelines will be part of our official documentation with the
> > > next
> > >
> > > release but they can already be found in our git repository: [5].
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ## Links
> > >
> > > [1]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TINKERPOP-2918
> > >
> > > [2]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TINKERPOP-2824
> > >
> > > [3]: https://www.youtube.com/@apachetinkerpop
> > >
> > > [4]: https://www.twitch.tv/apachetinkerpop
> > >
> > > [5]:
> > >
> > > https://github.com/apache/tinkerpop/blob/master/docs/src/dev/develop
> > > er /for-c ommitters.asciidoc#media-content-submission
> > > <https://github.com/apache/tinkerpop/blob/master/docs/src/dev/develo
> > > pe r/for-committers.asciidoc#media-content-submission>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> --
Divij Vaidya

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