What if there were an asAdmin() interface for Vertex/Edge that was required
for everything other than properties?

On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Matthias Broecheler <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> after playing with the M8 release for a bit I wanted to discuss the
> following: With M8, TP3 effectively brings back the distinction between
> Blueprints and Gremlin, i.e. there are low level methods for accessing a
> vertex' adjacency list and there are the traversals.
> In TP2 that was an issue because developers would start implementing
> against Blueprints directly and treat it like a graph library - not like a
> query language. It can be reasonably assumed that the same will happen for
> TP3. This will be further aggravated by the fact that element traversals
> are no longer supported in TP3. Meaning, you can no longer do
> v.out('knows').in('knows") but have to put the vertex back into the
> GraphTraversalSource. That will be very confusing and one can expect that
> user's will prefer using the primitive adjacency list calls instead.
> When you have a vertex and you try to traverse out of it, you will type in
> "v." in your IDE. Lacking any other options, the user will select
> "v.edges()", etc.
>
> I wanted to bring this to your attention since I like the vision of
> "everything is Gremlin". In naming this is true but I am afraid that actual
> user behavior will be different.
>
> - Why not hide the access methods in the iterator method as was done in the
> last milestone release?
> - Should we enforce that the GraphTraversalSource is attached to each
> element so that traversing out of it is possible?
>
> Thanks,
> Matthias
>

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