Hi,

        
http://tinkerpop.incubator.apache.org/docs/3.0.0.M9-incubating/#vertex-steps

Marko.

http://markorodriguez.com

On Jul 13, 2015, at 7:21 AM, Dylan Millikin <[email protected]> wrote:

> Just posting so I don't forget. Doc is also missing the old graph png that
> explained the graph structure (outV inV, etc..).
> 
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Marko Rodriguez <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Some time ago, Daniel and I were going to do a "Tutorials" link at the top
>> of the page (parallel with Source, Mailing Lists, Issues, etc. links). With
>> the stylesheet we have, rolling over Tutorial would then "drop down" links
>> like "Getting Started," "…", "…"… We had 3 tutorials in mind, but I now
>> forget what they were.
>> 
>> I wouldn't add the content to the homepage, but adding new pages that are
>> Tutorials would be good.
>> 
>> Take care,
>> Marko.
>> 
>> http://markorodriguez.com
>> 
>> On Jul 13, 2015, at 5:01 AM, Stephen Mallette <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Matthias, I've had similar feedback on the home page from folks.  It's a
>>> good collection of links for TinkerPop informational purposes but doesn't
>>> really convey much information about TinkerPop itself.  I don't think you
>>> can get access to modify the home page directly as you need apache svn
>>> access to do that (maybe you can checkout as read-only).  If you were to
>>> make changes, I guess you could modify it and then screenshot/pdf it for
>>> review - before marko or i commit the changes?? not sure sure if there
>> is a
>>> better flow than that.
>>> 
>>> As we talk about user documentation, a separate issue is what should
>> happen
>>> with gremlindocs.com.  I think the new tp3 documentation covers most of
>>> what gremlindocs.com tried to do in that it provided docs on all the
>>> available steps with examples.  I sort of had it in mind that gremlindocs
>>> would become a place for recipes (e.g. shortest path), but I'm not sure
>>> that's all it should be.  If anyone has any thoughts on the matter please
>>> let me know.
>>> 
>>> Matt - how would you envision feature files getting rolled into asciidoc
>>> generation?  or is what you're suggesting separate and an additional
>>> resource to users?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 6:52 PM, Matt Frantz <[email protected]
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I've been drawn to BDD and Cucumber recently, and feel that having the
>>>> behavioral description of TP3 written largely in Gherkin could serve
>>>> multiple purposes admirably.
>>>> 
>>>> Firstly, in Gherkin, one could write "lessons" or "tutorials" on
>> specific
>>>> features.  For example, individual steps could have a feature, but also
>>>> more complex use cases involving multiple steps.  Each feature file
>> could
>>>> be a coherent lesson, and a sequence of feature files could be designed
>> to
>>>> provide newcomers with guided trails through the documentation.  In some
>>>> lessons, one could explore multiple solutions to the same problem,
>> pointing
>>>> out advantages of each.
>>>> 
>>>> Secondly, since Cucumber provides the ability to automate and enforce
>> the
>>>> behavioral descriptions, I feel that the investment would pay dividends
>>>> when used in place of the existing JUnit test suites.  Many of the
>> existing
>>>> JUnit tests lack context.  While they are intended to enforce vendor
>>>> conformance, we have lost the "why" of each test.
>>>> 
>>>> This migration would not happen overnight, but I think that with the
>>>> deficit of Javadoc within the code, and the deficiencies that Matthias
>>>> points out in the home page, we should consider carefully how to bridge
>> the
>>>> gap.
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Matthias Broecheler <[email protected]
>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>> 
>>>>> over the last couple of weeks (in particular after presenting on TP3 in
>>>>> Seattle at the end of June) I have gotten some feedback from a number
>> of
>>>>> folks who wanted to try out TP3 but didn't know where to start or what
>> to
>>>>> do.
>>>>> A lot of that comes back to the current homepage:
>>>>> http://tinkerpop.incubator.apache.org/
>>>>> 
>>>>> While this page contains all the information experienced TP users would
>>>>> want to find, newbies seem to get lost:
>>>>> - It doesn't really explain what TinkerPop is or does beyond the
>> generic
>>>>> statement "provides graph computing capabilities". Why should somebody
>>>> care
>>>>> about TP3? What does it do specifically? What does it look like in
>>>>> practice?
>>>>> - There is no "Getting Started". While the documentation is a
>> beautifully
>>>>> written and comprehensive document, for a total newcomer it is very
>>>>> overwhelming.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Not saying that the website is bad, but that it doesn't serve newcomers
>>>> and
>>>>> interested developers very well.
>>>>> I would suggest that we delegate some information (e.g. 3rd party
>>>>> libraries, how to contribute) to subpages and use the homepage to help
>>>>> newcomers figure out what this is.
>>>>> I think Apache Spark does a reasonable job at this:
>>>>> https://spark.apache.org/
>>>>> 
>>>>> Would you guys mind if I took a crack at this with Daniel's help on
>>>> getting
>>>>> started and some examples? If so, how can I get access to the page to
>>>> make
>>>>> some suggested changes?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Matthias
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>> 

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