In general, there are a few rules of thumb: - You need AT LEAST 3 active PMC members at all times. With 4 in the PPMC (apart from mentors), this could be a problem. - You need (preferably) a good Pony Factor (see David's blogs/talks on that issue, or look at the derivatives (Elephant factor, Bus factor etc)) - You need diversity in the PMC to prevent strongarming - You need AT LEAST one ASF member in the PMC when you graduate.
For some board members, few is okay, and for some, a larger number than 4 is non-negotiable. If you want, you can ask either David or Rich personally, as they are both on the board. Take a look at the public board meeting minutes from the past, and look at the number of committers that graduating podlings generally have. With regards, Daniel. On 08/27/2015 06:30 PM, Marko Rodriguez wrote: > Hello Daniel, > > When you say "raise eyebrows" do you mean "no" or do you mean, we have to > provide a rationale argument for why TinkerPop is currently the way it is. > > Perhaps more generally, who makes the decision and which problems do they > specifically have such that we can address them either via fulfilling their > want or changing their mind through discussion. > > Thank you, > Marko. > > http://markorodriguez.com > > On Aug 27, 2015, at 10:26 AM, Daniel Gruno <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Community, community, community. >> >> If you were to graduate now, the board would raise their eyebrows at >> there only being 4 committers, and would insist that all mentors join >> the PMC (we are sort of free to _not_ join it normally when you >> graduate). and even then, 8 people is not a whole lot of community. >> >> Get your non-mentor community to at least double the size (preferably >> more!), and we can discuss some more detailed goals. >> >> With regards, >> Daniel. >> On 08/27/2015 06:21 PM, Marko Rodriguez wrote: >>> Hello Rich (cc: others), >>> >>> What still remains for TinkerPop to get out of incubation? >>> >>> Thank you, >>> Marko. >>> >>> http://markorodriguez.com >>> >>> On Aug 10, 2015, at 5:59 PM, Rich Bowen <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks. I've signed off. Perhaps before the next cycle we need to evaluate >>>> what still remains to graduation, and make plans of how to reach it. >>>> On Aug 10, 2015 4:35 PM, "Marko Rodriguez" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> I appended TinkerPop's section to the end of the document. >>>>> >>>>> I believe that each mentor needs to [x] sign off. >>>>> >>>>> Next, I don't know what else we need to do to graduate so I just said >>>>> "Grow Community." (seems nebulous). >>>>> >>>>> Thanks David, >>>>> Marko. >>>>> >>>>> http://markorodriguez.com >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 10, 2015, at 2:20 PM, David Nalley <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi folks: >>>>>> >>>>>> There currently isn't a Tinkerpop report in the larger incubator >>>>>> report. We still have a short period of time that we can add it, and >>>>>> it would be nice to do so if at all possible. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2015 >>>>>> >>>>>> Who is going to take charge on accomplishing this? >>>>>> >>>>>> --David >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >> > >
