Hello,
So, I had to move the tutorial to 3.2.x+ branch because it uses the new
TraversalSource API. Thus, the new URL for the DRAFT tutorial is here:
http://tinkerpop.apache.org/docs/3.2.1-SNAPSHOT/tutorials/gremlin-language-variants/
I think this is near complete. Here are some things I would like to add before
calling it quits:
1. I would like to make a head-nod at least to JINI. I didn't feel that
it was worth going into that model in the tutorial. Most people won't do that.
2. I would like to work with Mark to make Gremlinpy "compliant" and
then promote Gremlinpy at the end.
3. I would like to work with Dylan to make Gremlin-PHP "compliant" and
then promote Gremlin-PHP at the end.
4. Any recommendations you may have… ?
Thank you,
Marko.
http://markorodriguez.com
On Apr 20, 2016, at 5:36 PM, Marko Rodriguez <okramma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have pure Python talking to GremlinServer now via David Brown's
> gremlin-python WebSocket driver.
>
>
> http://tinkerpop.apache.org/docs/3.1.3-SNAPSHOT/tutorials/gremlin-language-variants/#using-python-and-gremlin-server
>
> I haven't updated the text, but you can see the Groovy script that generates
> the code. Slicky.
>
> Here it is in action:
>
> >>> execfile("/Users/marko/Desktop/gremlin-python.py")
> >>> g = PythonGraphTraversalSource("g")
> >>> g.V().hasLabel("person").repeat(__.out()).times(2).name[0:2].toList()
> [u'ripple', u'lop']
> >>> m = g.V().hasLabel("person").repeat(__.out()).times(2).name[0:2].toList()
> >>> type(m)
> <type 'list'>
> >>> g.V().out("created").count().toList()
> [4]
> >>> g.V().out("created").groupCount().by("name").toList()
> [{u'ripple': 1, u'lop': 3}]
> >>>
>
> Criznazy,
> Marko.
>
> http://markorodriguez.com
>
> On Apr 20, 2016, at 2:25 PM, Marko Rodriguez <okramma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I added the pure Python model:
>>
>>
>> http://tinkerpop.apache.org/docs/3.1.3-SNAPSHOT/tutorials/gremlin-language-variants/#using-python-and-gremlin-server
>>
>> So this section just ends with a generated String. It would be neat to show
>> David Brown's python driver library submitted that string and getting back a
>> result set. Anyone have the patience to set up GremlinServer and import
>> python driver module and "do the do" ?
>>
>> Also note the section on "Language Drivers vs. Language Variants."
>>
>> http://tinkerpop.apache.org/docs/3.1.3-SNAPSHOT/tutorials/gremlin-language-variants/
>> (forgot to a href anchor it -- scroll down)
>>
>> Finally, here is the generate gremlin-python.py file.
>>
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-tinkerpop/blob/TINKERPOP-1232/docs/static/resources/gremlin-python.py
>>
>> Take care,
>> Marko.
>>
>> http://markorodriguez.com
>>
>> On Apr 20, 2016, at 1:20 PM, Marko Rodriguez <okramma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Dylan,
>>>
>>>> That's a nice article on Jython. I can confirm that the same can be
>>>> accomplished with PHP. I actually like the script to generate the
>>>> traversal. It's more effort but is more IDE friendly than using magic
>>>> methods.
>>>
>>> Great. Its still DRAFT so please provide ideas/directions.
>>>
>>>> To bounce off of the Python->Gremlin-Groovy(String). How would that work
>>>> with bindings? For instance how would one write the following groovy
>>>> script:
>>>>
>>>> a = "person";b = "name";c = "marko";
>>>> g.V().has(a, b, c);
>>>>
>>>> (I think it's important to support multiline queries as the gremlin-server
>>>> communication overhead is pretty significant)
>>>
>>> I don't know yet. Perhaps, in Python, you write:
>>>
>>> g.V().has("#a") to denote that you want the #a-string to be a variable and
>>> thus, the compilation is g.V().has(a). Then its up to the language driver
>>> to determine how bindings are declared.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?,
>>> Marko.
>>>
>>> http://markorodriguez.com
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Marko Rodriguez <okramma...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is a published SNAPSHOT DRAFT of what I have so far for the tutorial.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tinkerpop.apache.org/docs/3.1.3-SNAPSHOT/tutorials/gremlin-language-variants/
>>>>>
>>>>> I've asked Ketrina to do a new graphic for this. It will be CrAzY.
>>>>>
>>>>> The gremlin-jython.py link is broken as I didn't do a full doc build. Its
>>>>> here to look at if you are interested:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-tinkerpop/blob/TINKERPOP-1232/docs/static/resources/gremlin-jython.py
>>>>>
>>>>> Marko.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://markorodriguez.com
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 19, 2016, at 10:08 PM, 8trk <mark.hender...@8trk.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ha. That is very cool. You can easily just rewrite that for PHP and
>>>>> probably Ruby too and have working native interfaces.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I updated my Gist to work with your examples. I had to update Gremlinpy
>>>>> because I didn’t define __ correctly (thanks! this was a fun challenge).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://gist.github.com/emehrkay/68a9e64789826f6a59e8b5c837dd6ce4 <
>>>>> https://gist.github.com/emehrkay/68a9e64789826f6a59e8b5c837dd6ce4>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 19, 2016, at 11:55 PM, Marko Rodriguez <okramma...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think adhering to the Gremlin-Java interface is a great idea exactly
>>>>> for the reasons that you stated.
>>>>>>>> The main reason that I didn’t map one-to-one with the native interface
>>>>> is because I wasn’t too sure how to do so, I knew that there was a lot of
>>>>> method overloading which isn’t possible in either of the languages that I
>>>>> wrote this in (Python/PHP), and I figured this approach would be more
>>>>> flexible with regard to changes in the language (to make it TP3 all I had
>>>>> to do was define all of the predicates check for them when they’re passed
>>>>> into functions).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Check this out. Here is a Groovy script the generates the Python
>>>>> traversal class.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://gist.github.com/okram/940adc02834a97a7187d3da57cbf3227
>>>>>>> - super simple.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thus, no need to fat finger anything in and you know you have every
>>>>> method implemented. Moreover, every release, just generate the Python
>>>>> class
>>>>> by running this script in the Gremlin Console. And it just works:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> g.V().has("name","marko")
>>>>>>> g.V().has("name", "marko")
>>>>>>>>>> g.V().has("person","name","marko")
>>>>>>> g.V().has("person", "name", "marko")
>>>>>>>>>> g.V().where(out("knows"))
>>>>>>> g.V().where(__.out("knows"))
>>>>>>>>>> g.V()._as("a").out("created")._as("b").where(_as("a").out("knows"))
>>>>>>> g.V().as("a").out("created").as("b").where(__.as("a").out("knows"))
>>>>>>>>>> g.V().match(_as("a").out("knows")._as("b"),
>>>>> _as("b").out("knows")._as("a"))
>>>>>>> g.V().match(__.as("a").out("knows").as("b"),
>>>>> __.as("b").out("knows").as("a"))
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> g.V().hasLabel("person").has("age",gt(30)).out("created","knows").name
>>>>>>> g.V().hasLabel("person").has("age", P.gt(30)).out("created",
>>>>> "knows").values("name")
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The more that I think about it, I think that Gremlinpy’s aim was to be
>>>>> able to write Groovy in Python. That is the main reason why I didn’t
>>>>> choose
>>>>> just straight-up string concatenation — I needed to be able to do things
>>>>> like if clauses or closures or really compounded queries. (In Gizmo, my
>>>>> OGM, I’ve built some pretty dense queries to send to the Gremlin server).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yea, the closures are the hard part. I saw that in Python you can walk
>>>>> the syntax tree of a closure :) … nasty.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your approach is clearly closer to to Gremlin-Java interface and we
>>>>> should probably use some variant of it going forward. I quickly took that
>>>>> interface and used Gremlinpy to handle all of the processing as seen in
>>>>> this gist:
>>>>> https://gist.github.com/emehrkay/68a9e64789826f6a59e8b5c837dd6ce4
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Interesting. See how it does with my auto-code generator. Also, I want
>>>>> to steal your P, T constructs as I think you do that better in Gremlinpy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marko.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://markorodriguez.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 19, 2016, at 10:54 PM, Marko Rodriguez <okramma...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sweet -- your dev@ mail works now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think you are on to something with this code example. Gremlinpy
>>>>> does this, but a bit differently. It uses Python’s magic methods to
>>>>> dynamically build a linked list.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So when you do something like
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> g = Gremlin()
>>>>>>>>>> g.function()
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It creates simply adds an gremlinpy.gremlin.Function object to the
>>>>> queue. That object has the parameters to send once the linked list is
>>>>> converted to a string.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why would you create a queue and not just concatenate a String?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Check out the readme for a few more examples (it can do things like
>>>>> add pre-defined statements to the chain, nesting Gremlin instances, and
>>>>> manually binding params) https://github.com/emehrkay/gremlinpy <
>>>>> https://github.com/emehrkay/gremlinpy>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ah, parameter bindings. Hmm…
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think that a very simple linked list build with a fluid interface
>>>>> and few predefined object types may be a good approach to defining a
>>>>> native
>>>>> way to represent a Gremlin query.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It would be really clean if there was GraphTraversalSource,
>>>>> GraphTraversal, and __ Traversal without any "extra methods." In Gremlinpy
>>>>> README I see lots of other methods off of "g" that are not Gremlin-Java
>>>>> methods. It would be cool if it was a direct map of Gremlin-Java (like
>>>>> Gremlin-Groovy and Gremlin-Scala). Where the only deviations are things
>>>>> like _in(), _as(), etc and any nifty language tricks like g.V().name or
>>>>> g.V().out()[0:10]. This way, we instill in the designers that any Gremlin
>>>>> language variant should be "identical," where (within reason) the docs for
>>>>> Gremlin-Java are just as useful to Gremlinpy people. Furthermore, by
>>>>> stressing this, we ensure that variants don't deviate and go down their
>>>>> own
>>>>> syntax/constructs path. For instance, I see g.v(12) instead of g.V(12).
>>>>> When a Gremlin language variant wants to do something new, we should argue
>>>>> -- "submit a PR to Gremlin-Java w/ your desired addition" as Apache's
>>>>> Gremlin-Java should be considered the standard/idiomatic representation of
>>>>> Gremlin.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Finally, it would be cool to have a tool that introspected on
>>>>> Gremlin-Java and verified that Gremlinpy had all the methods implemented.
>>>>> Another thing to stress to language variant designers -- make sure you are
>>>>> in sync with every version so write a test case that does such
>>>>> introspection.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thoughts?,
>>>>>>>>> Marko.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://markorodriguez.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 19, 2016, at 10:19 PM, Marko Rodriguez <okramma...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, so I got into a groove. Here is
>>>>> Python->Gremlin-Groovy(String). This is pure Python -- nothing Jython
>>>>> going
>>>>> on here.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://gist.github.com/okram/4705fed038dde673f4c5323416899992
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here it is in action:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> # create a traversal source (stupid class name, I know)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g = PythonStringGraphTraversalSource("g")
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> # simple warmup
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g.V().has("name","marko")
>>>>>>>>>>> g.V().has("name", "marko")
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> # one has()-method, but varargs parsing is smart
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g.V().has("person","name","marko")
>>>>>>>>>>> g.V().has("person", "name", "marko")
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> # strings and numbers mixed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g.V().has("person","age",32)
>>>>>>>>>>> g.V().has("person", "age", 32)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> # nested anonymous traversal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g.V().where(out("knows"))
>>>>>>>>>>> g.V().where(__.out("knows"))
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> # as() is reserved in Python, so _as() is used.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> g.V()._as("a").out("created")._as("b").where(_as("a").out("knows"))
>>>>>>>>>>> g.V().as("a").out("created").as("b").where(__.as("a").out("knows"))
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> # multi-traversal match()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g.V().match(_as("a").out("knows")._as("b"),
>>>>> _as("b").out("knows")._as("a"))
>>>>>>>>>>> g.V().match(__.as("a").out("knows").as("b"),
>>>>> __.as("b").out("knows").as("a"))
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> # P-predicates and .name-sugar (attribute access interception)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> g.V().hasLabel("person").has("age",gt(30)).out("created","knows").name
>>>>>>>>>>> g.V().hasLabel("person").has("age", P.gt(30)).out("created",
>>>>> "knows").values("name")
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> # smart about boolean conversion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g.V().valueMap(True,"name","age")
>>>>>>>>>>> g.V().valueMap(true, "name", "age")
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> # lambdas -- ghetto as its not a Python lambda, but a Groovy lambda
>>>>> string
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g.V().map('it.get().value("name")')
>>>>>>>>>>> g.V().map(it.get().value("name"))
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What other constructs are there? I think thats it… Everything else
>>>>> from here is just fat fingering in all the methods. Then, from there you
>>>>> use David Brown's GremlinClient (
>>>>> https://github.com/davebshow/gremlinclient) to shuffle the string across
>>>>> the network to GremlinServer and get back results. I suppose there needs
>>>>> to
>>>>> be some sort of .submit() method ? …. hmmm… wondering if .next()/hasNext()
>>>>> iterator methods can be used to submit automagically and then it feels
>>>>> JUST
>>>>> like Gremlin-Java.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> @Mark: This is what Gremlinpy should do, no?
>>>>>>>>>>> @Dylan: Can you find any Gremlin syntax hole I'm missing that isn't
>>>>> solvable with the current espoused pattern?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Good, right?
>>>>>>>>>>> Marko.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://markorodriguez.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 19, 2016, at 4:51 PM, Marko Rodriguez <okramma...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Done for the night. Here is PythonStringGraphTraversal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://gist.github.com/okram/4705fed038dde673f4c5323416899992
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ??? Cool?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Marko.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://markorodriguez.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 19, 2016, at 4:28 PM, Marko Rodriguez <okramma...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I "learned" Python and am able to do a Python class wrapper
>>>>> around GraphTraversal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> https://gist.github.com/okram/1a0c5f6b65a4b70c558537e5eeaad429
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its crazy, it "just works" -- with __ static methods and all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The reason I wanted to create a wrapper is because I want to use
>>>>> Python-specific language constructs and not only Gremlin-Java. What those
>>>>> specific language constructs are, I don't know as I don't know Python :).
>>>>> Moreover, this shell of a wrapper will be used for the JNI and String
>>>>> construction models. Right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g = PythonGraphTraversalSource(graph)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g
>>>>>>>>>>>>> graphtraversalsource[tinkergraph[vertices:6 edges:6], standard]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g.V()
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [GraphStep(vertex,[])]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g.V().toList()
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [v[1], v[2], v[3], v[4], v[5], v[6]]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g.V().where(__.out("created")).values("name").toList()
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [marko, josh, peter]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even valueMap() which takes var args of different types works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g.V().valueMap()
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [GraphStep(vertex,[]), PropertyMapStep(value)]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g.V().valueMap().toList()
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [{name=[marko], age=[29]}, {name=[vadas], age=[27]}, {name=[lop],
>>>>> lang=[java]}, {name=[josh], age=[32]}, {name=[ripple], lang=[java]},
>>>>> {name=[peter], age=[35]}]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g.V().valueMap("name").toList()
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [{name=[marko]}, {name=[vadas]}, {name=[lop]}, {name=[josh]},
>>>>> {name=[ripple]}, {name=[peter]}]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g.V().valueMap(True,"name").toList()
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [{label=person, name=[marko], id=1}, {label=person, name=[vadas],
>>>>> id=2}, {label=software, name=[lop], id=3}, {label=person, name=[josh],
>>>>> id=4}, {label=software, name=[ripple], id=5}, {label=person, name=[peter],
>>>>> id=6}]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Easy peasy lemon squeezy or is there something fundamental I'm
>>>>> missing?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marko.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://markorodriguez.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 19, 2016, at 2:58 PM, Marko Rodriguez <
>>>>> okramma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I downloaded and installed Jython 2.7.0.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This how easy it was to get Gremlin working in Jython.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> import sys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> sys.path.append("/Users/marko/software/tinkerpop/tinkerpop3/gremlin-console/target/apache-gremlin-console-3.2.1-SNAPSHOT-standalone/lib/commons-codec-1.9.jar")
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> sys.path.append("/Users/marko/software/tinkerpop/tinkerpop3/gremlin-console/target/apache-gremlin-console-3.2.1-SNAPSHOT-standalone/lib/commons-configuration-1.10.jar")
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> … lots of jars to add
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> sys.path.append("/Users/marko/software/tinkerpop/tinkerpop3/gremlin-console/target/apache-gremlin-console-3.2.1-SNAPSHOT-standalone/ext/tinkergraph-gremlin/lib/tinkergraph-gremlin-3.2.1-SNAPSHOT.jar")
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from org.apache.tinkerpop.gremlin.tinkergraph.structure import
>>>>> TinkerFactory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graph = TinkerFactory.createModern()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g = graph.traversal()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g.V().hasLabel("person").out("knows").out("created")
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g.V().hasLabel("person").out("knows").out("created").toList()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then, the output looks like this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from org.apache.tinkerpop.gremlin.tinkergraph.structure
>>>>> import TinkerFactory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graph = TinkerFactory.createModern()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g = graph.traversal()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graphtraversalsource[tinkergraph[vertices:6 edges:6], standard]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g.V().hasLabel("person").out("knows").out("created")
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [GraphStep(vertex,[]), HasStep([~label.eq(person)]),
>>>>> VertexStep(OUT,[knows],vertex), VertexStep(OUT,[created],vertex)]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g.V().hasLabel("person").out("knows").out("created").toList()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [v[5], v[3]]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note that, of course, Jython's command line doesn't auto-iterate
>>>>> traversals. Besides that -- sheez, that was simple.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The trick now is to use Jython idioms to make Gremlin-Jython be
>>>>> comfortable to Python users…
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marko.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://markorodriguez.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 19, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Marko Rodriguez <
>>>>> okramma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I just pushed:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> https://git1-us-west.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-tinkerpop.git;a=commitdiff;h=0beae616
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This should help provide the scaffolding for the tutorial.
>>>>> Given that I know nothing about Python, I think my contributions start to
>>>>> fall off significantly here. :) … Well, I can help and write more text, I
>>>>> just don't know how to use Jython, Python idioms, Gremlinpy, etc…..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Mark/Dylan: If you want to build the tutorial and look at it,
>>>>> you simple do:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ bin/process-docs.sh --dryRun
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And then for me, the URI to which I point my browser for the
>>>>> index.html on my local computer is:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> file:///Users/marko/software/tinkerpop/tinkerpop3/target/docs/htmlsingle/tutorials/gremlin-language-variants/index.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marko.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://markorodriguez.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 19, 2016, at 9:16 AM, Marko Rodriguez <
>>>>> okramma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello (NOTE: I dropped gremlin-users@),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Stephen. Its crazy how simple that is :D.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> https://twitter.com/apachetinkerpop/status/722432843360546816
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So Mark, now your fork's TINKERPOP-1232/ branch and
>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-tinkerpop/tree/TINKERPOP-1232 exist
>>>>> and we can keep them sync'd accordingly as we develop this tutorial. When
>>>>> we feel that the tutorial is ready for primetime, we will issue a PR to
>>>>> have it merged into tp31/ (and thus, up merged to master/).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where do we go from here? I think this is a good opportunity
>>>>> to work both on Gremlinpy and the tutorial. Can we make Gremlinpy as true
>>>>> to the spirit of "host language embedding" as possible? In doing so, can
>>>>> we
>>>>> explain how we did it so other language providers can learn the best
>>>>> practices?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the tutorial we have 3 models we want to promote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Jython
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Python JINI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Python String
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (1) is easy to knock off. In fact, we should ask Michael
>>>>> Pollmeier for advice here given his work on Gremlin-Scala. (2) -- ?? do
>>>>> you
>>>>> know how do this? If so, it should be only fairly more difficult than (1).
>>>>> Finally, (3) is the big win and where I think most of the work both in the
>>>>> tutorial and in Gremlinpy will happen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do you propose we proceed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marko.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://markorodriguez.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 19, 2016, at 8:24 AM, Stephen Mallette <
>>>>> spmalle...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok - done:
>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-tinkerpop/tree/TINKERPOP-1232
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Marko Rodriguez <
>>>>> okramma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *** Mark, if you are not on dev@tinkerpop, I would recommend
>>>>> joining that as I will drop gremlin-users@ from communication on this
>>>>> ticket from here on out. ***
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Stephen: Mark forked the TinkerPop repository to his GitHub
>>>>> account. I believe he gave you access as well as me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you create a new stub tutorial for Mark+Dylan+me? (Moving
>>>>> forward, I will learn how to do it from your one commit).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gremlin-language-variants/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After that Mark+Dylan+me will go to town on:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TINKERPOP-1232
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marko.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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