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All,

I've tried to post to this thread a few times, but I never see the
messages arriving on the list. Moderated? They do include a two HTTP
URLs, but that hasn't seemed to stop messages in the past...

Thanks,
- -chris

On 11/8/18 17:30, Emmanuel Bourg wrote:
> Le 08/11/2018 à 15:47, Mark Thomas a écrit :
> 
>> is that a reason to drop attempts to provide i10n or is it an
>> indication we aren't doing nearly enough?
> 
> We can always do more, but considering our limited resources I
> think it's wise to focus first on the most important areas (ie.
> messages displayed in web pages vs internal log messages).
> 
> 
>> Seriously, we (well, those in the community that speak French 
>> fluently - not me) could look to improve those.
> 
> FTR I did start working on the French translation for jasper this
> summer but I got dragged to other duties. When looking around the
> other resource bundles I really wondered if it made sense to
> translate very technical messages though.
> 
> 
>> But that brings us back to your original question of whether the 
>> translations are worth it. If (and it is a fairly big if) the 
>> translations were mostly complete and mostly of good quality,
>> would that change your view? I'm thinking try and improve the
>> translations as a first step and, if things don't improve, then
>> decide what to do next.
> 
> If the translations were nearly complete and of good quality I
> would definitely not suggest dropping them. Yet, I think I'd still
> configure Tomcat to run in English instead of French because I'm
> used to the English terminology.
> 
> 
>> Removing the translations (apart from the UI) feels to be too big
>> a step to me. That said, I can see how they would be a hindrance
>> rather than a help to some. Perhaps separating the l10n JARs into
>> user facing and external would give more options. Admins could
>> remove the translated JAR for the internal messages and get those
>> messages in English if they prefer. Or we could ship less or even
>> no translations for internal messages by default and provide them
>> as a separate download.
> 
> I don't think rearranging the JARs is necessary, it isn't difficult
> to run Tomcat with a different locale. I'm more concerned about
> the maintenance burden and the actual value vs the time invested.
> 
> Emmanuel Bourg
> 
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