On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 6:16 PM Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> Any other thoughts on this topic? > I think we should have EE compatibility back if possible. Rémy > Mark > > > On 21/01/2019 10:56, Mark Thomas wrote: > > Switching hats and speaking as a Tomcat committer. > > > > My experience is that folks expect Tomcat to follow the spec and want to > > know that it does. However, formal certification (or lack of it) hasn't > > seemed to be a big deal for our users in recent years. I don't know how > > much of that is because end users care more about actual behaviour than > > formal certification and how much it is because they understand the > > historical issues between the ASF and Sun/Oracle over access to the TCKs. > > > > Maybe those expectations will change with the specs moving to Eclipse. > > > > If the community wants to see the compatibility logo then I have no > > objection as the requirements don't seem very onerous. > > > > Mark > > > > > > On 18/01/2019 22:53, Mark Thomas wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I am writing to your dev@ lists (on BCC) as your project has, in the > >> past, requested access to the Java EE TCKs while they were controlled by > >> Sun and then Oracle. > >> > >> As I am sure you are aware, Java EE has moved to Eclipse and is now > >> Jakarta EE. The good news is that the TCKs have been open sourced. > >> > >> https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-tck > >> > >> (I haven't tried to build the latest TCK from source yet but it is on my > >> TODO list.) > >> > >> Shipping compatible implementations of the Jakarta EE specs (and being > >> able to make public statements to that effect) will be subject only to > >> the spec [1] and TCK [2] licenses. There will no longer be a TCK > >> agreement or NDA to sign. However... > >> > >> The question has arisen whether or not any ASF projects will want to use > >> the Jakarta EE compatible logo [3]. If a project wants to be able to do > >> this, there are some organisational hoops to jump through. Before the > >> ASF starts down that path the board has asked me to see if there are any > >> projects that want to use the Jakarta EE compatible logo. After all, > >> there is no point jumping through the hoops if no-one wants to use the > logo. > >> > >> With the above in mind can you please discuss this amongst your project > >> community and reply back to jcp-o...@apache.org whether or not your > >> project is interested in being able to use the Jakarta EE compatible > >> logo. I ask that you complete this no later than the next board meeting > >> (20th February 2019). > >> > >> If you have any questions about any of the above, please also use > >> jcp-o...@apache.org to ask them. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Mark > >> > >> > >> [1] https://www.eclipse.org/legal/efsl.php > >> [2] https://www.eclipse.org/legal/tck.php > >> [3] https://www.eclipse.org/legal/tck.php > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@tomcat.apache.org > >> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@tomcat.apache.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@tomcat.apache.org > >
