On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Costin Manolache wrote: > > > We already have eclipse files checked in AFAIK - that counts as the > > second > > build system. > > We used to have makefiles too, also in parallel with ant (in 3.0 > > times). > > > > The goal IMO is that people who like to type mvn can do it - without any > > guarantee that > > the result will be identical with the official release or will be > > maintained > > long term, just like > > > > > isn't that the culprit, including a feature under the pretenses that it > wont be maintained? I meant 'maintained' in the apache-sense, of having 3 +1, etc. ( which AFAIK is required for something to be 'officially' released ). I'm sure Henri will maintain it - and at some point it may even have the 3 +1s. As long as there is no technical reason for a veto ( besides the 'don't break existing build' - which I think he addressed ), I don't see how to stop him. I don't like Maven - but I think as long as it doesn't break anything Henri is perfectly entitled to work on this. Costin > > Filip > > the eclipse project can run but it's quite different from the official > > build. > > > > If it's making easier for some people to build tomcat - and it doesn't > > affect people who use > > ant in any way - what's the harm ? > > > > Costin > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 2:23 AM, Remy Maucherat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 22:28 -0400, Yoav Shapira wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Remy Maucherat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The current build scripts are fully tested and work well. Adding > > > > > additional methods of building or replacing these scripts > > > > > altogether > > > > > would only provide ways to create and/or release broken binaries. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, no one is saying anything about touching the current build > > > > scripts, build process, release process, or source structure. All > > > > those remain the same. The job of the release manager remains the > > > > same. > > > > > > > > This is just an alternative for those people who want to use a > > > > slightly easier / user-friendlier build system. We could do worse > > > > than lowering the barrier to entry for new contributors. > > > > > > > > > > > You mean you type "mvn" instead of "ant" ? I agree te keys are closer > > > together on my keyboard, so it could indeed be easier. Personally, I > > > did > > > have a first hand experience with Maven, and I think it's horrible > > > (you > > > have no clue what it is doing, error reporting is bad, and basically, > > > you have to think and act the tool's way). > > > > > > I disagree with having two separate build systems, there's no > > > guarantee > > > of equivalence. > > > > > > Rémy > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.6/1404 - > > > Release Date: 4/29/2008 6:27 PM > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
