Let's see what will be the result. It's interesting.

But once again, -1 to change the default behavior.

Jean-Louis


2013/5/13 Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]>

> well IMO we should go for 1 with a config to fallback to what we have now
> to get a nice default
>
> i'll try to commit it to see how TCKs behave with such a config, then we'll
> see i think
>
> *Romain Manni-Bucau*
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>
>
>
> 2013/5/13 David Blevins <[email protected]>
>
> > In a similar boat.  I think #1 is a feature we need regardless, though I
> > agree with JL that the default should be as it is now.
> >
> > I have a small hope that we could find a way to make managing shaded
> > dependencies a bit easier.  If we could find a cleaner way to do it than
> we
> > do now, might be more realistic to try.  It's a bit of a project though.
> >
> >
> > -David
> >
> > On May 13, 2013, at 1:31 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > i'm playing with 1 ATM, 2 would be the best but we'd need to maintain
> > > it...impossible today
> > >
> > > a shade will not work without custom clever transformer (never a good
> > > solution)
> > >
> > > so basically i'm for 1/ too if my tests show it works fine enough
> > >
> > > *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> > > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
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> > > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2013/5/13 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <[email protected]>
> > >
> > >> 1/ just adding a property for an app with values like parent-first
> > (default
> > >> - today) and parent-last (new value).
> > >> 2/ that usually the way other apps servers are used to do (IBM
> > Websphere AS
> > >> IIR)
> > >> 3/Don't know
> > >> 4/No
> > >>
> > >> The first one looks the more simple to implement (at first glance) and
> > the
> > >> one which produce less impacts and possible side effects for users.
> > >> The second is something which can be studied furthermore and implement
> > as a
> > >> cherry on the cake.
> > >>
> > >> Then, if I had to choose, I would choose 1/
> > >>
> > >> Jean-Louis
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 2013/5/13 Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]>
> > >>
> > >>> Hi
> > >>>
> > >>> as you probably know we changed quite often the classloading these
> last
> > >>> versions.
> > >>>
> > >>> We still have regularly issues with tomee provided libs (mainly
> because
> > >> of
> > >>> cxf/amq/... transitive deps)
> > >>>
> > >>> I would like to go further and use an URLClassLoaderFirst for lib
> part
> > of
> > >>> ear to allow apps to not rely on tomee libs first.
> > >>>
> > >>> The alternative is to shade/repackage all deps.
> > >>>
> > >>> PS: i want to avoid OSGi
> > >>>
> > >>> So basically here is the question: to solve conflict lib issue what
> > your
> > >>> preferred solution:
> > >>> 1) URLClassLoaderFirst even for ear lib part - if this one please say
> > if
> > >>> you would like a property to switch back to old behavior
> > >>> (openejb.ear.lib.classloader.first=false?)
> > >>> 2) repackage all deps
> > >>> 3) other
> > >>> 4) OSGi/OSGi like
> > >>> ?
> > >>>
> > >>> If nothing moves in the following days i'll go for 1 (then we can
> still
> > >>> discuss ;).
> > >>>
> > >>> *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> > >>> *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> > >>> *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
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> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Jean-Louis
> > >>
> >
> >
>



-- 
Jean-Louis

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