@Thiago: if there is a security fixes we'll start from a tag anyway,
not from master


Romain Manni-Bucau
@rmannibucau
http://www.tomitribe.com
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https://github.com/rmannibucau


2015-01-28 14:23 GMT+01:00 Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de>:
> thiago, there is absolutely no sense in all the gitflow stuff. The more I 
> think about it the more I come to the conclusion they never did a big project 
> yet.
>
> Really the ONLY reason for such a workflow is if you have tons of uneducated 
> juniors working on the codebase and trashing your project by committing more 
> bad things than good things. But I hope that is NOT the case for ASF 
> projects...
> Btw, for such projects I'd rather suggest to use gerrit and not gitflow...
>
>
>
> How does it work usually.
>
> 1.) trunk/master is the 'next planned big release'. Most of the work happens 
> there.
>
>
> 2.) For each released version we have a tag. If we need maintenance on those 
> (like we have with 1.7.x then we simply create a maintenance branch for it.
>
> 3.) If there is a need for a hotfix then simply grab the tag of the release 
> and create a branch from it. Then just apply the fixes you really need and no 
> bit more.
>
> That works that way since years and I've never seen any issues.
>
>
> The point is that it doesn't make much sense to do all the work upfront 
> because you _might_ need it. Just do the work IF you need it instead. That's 
> really easy to do with GIT.
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Wednesday, 28 January 2015, 14:05, Thiago Veronezi <thi...@veronezi.org> 
>> wrote:
>> >>> ...oops for tomee you dont get the snapshot
>> I agree. But that's the whole point. We shouldn't get the snapshot from
>> master, according to the "Gitflow". I think it pays off when we have a
>> hotfix like critical security bugs. Instead of rushing all the on-going
>> tasks in order to close them for a new release, we would simply create a
>> hotfix branch out of master, do the fix and merge it to develop and back to
>> master. The link Andy provided has a chart that shows exactly how it would
>> help. See the "hotfixes" line: http://nvie.com/img/git-mo...@2x.png.
>>
>> If the "pom.xml" file in "origin/master" does not use the
>> "SNAPSHOT", it
>> raises a flag to the developer. "Where the hell are the snapshots?" :)
>> She/he would need to switch to the develop branch.
>>
>> []s,
>> Thiago.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 7:09 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau
>> <rmannibu...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  was the idea but:
>>>  - doesnt make sense @asf
>>>  - are we numerous enough to commit to let it get any sense?
>>>  - do we want this ability at all?
>>>
>>>  IMO we dont
>>>
>>>  master = 2.0.0-SNAPSHOT = last version of the main version so it is
>>>  not wrong even if not sexy.
>>>
>>>  What we'll do basically when releasing is just merging all to master
>>>  if we keep develop so we just added noise for external guys
>>>
>>>
>>>  When you go on github what do you do?
>>>
>>>  git clone xxxxx
>>>  cd xxxxx
>>>  mvn clean install
>>>
>>>
>>>  ...oops for tomee you dont get the snapshot
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Romain Manni-Bucau
>>>  @rmannibucau
>>>  http://www.tomitribe.com
>>>  http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com
>>>  https://github.com/rmannibucau
>>>
>>>
>>>  2015-01-28 13:06 GMT+01:00 Thiago Veronezi <thi...@veronezi.org>:
>>>  > Hi,
>>>  >
>>>  > If I get it right...
>>>  >
>>>  > * "origin/master" is just a regular branch, and a branch
>> represents what
>>>  we
>>>  > want it to be. For the "gitflow", "origin/master"
>> is our latest release.
>>>  In
>>>  > this case, if someone performs a checkout of master and builds the
>>>  > application from it, she/he will build the 1.7.1 distribution. Note
>> that
>>>  > currently it points to "2.0.0-SNAPSHOT". So maybe it is not
>> in good shape
>>>  > because this source code it is not production ready.
>>>  > * "origin/develop" is our tomee 2.0
>>>  > * "origin/tomee-1.7.x" is our tomee 1.7.x
>>>  >
>>>  > If we talk about commands, we would use the following in our
>> development
>>>  > process [Just tested it to be sure. :) ]...
>>>  >
>>>  > // check out the source code. "origin/master" is the
>> default. We don't
>>>  > commit to this guy.
>>>  > git clone https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/tomee.git my_source
>>>  > Cloning into 'my_source'...
>>>  > remote: Counting objects: 236092, done.
>>>  > remote: Compressing objects: 100% (73416/73416), done.
>>>  > remote: Total 236092 (delta 115784), reused 233010 (delta 114168)
>>>  > Receiving objects: 100% (236092/236092), 35.93 MiB | 986 KiB/s, done.
>>>  > Resolving deltas: 100% (115784/115784), done.
>>>  >
>>>  > // go to new directory
>>>  > cd my_source
>>>  >
>>>  > // create a local "develop" branch for for tomee 2.0 from
>>>  "origin/develop"
>>>  > git checkout -b develop origin/develop
>>>  > Branch develop set up to track remote branch develop from origin.
>>>  > Switched to a new branch 'develop'
>>>  >
>>>  > // create a local "feature" branch for for tomee 2.0 from
>> the local
>>>  > "develop"
>>>  > git checkout -b cosmetic develop
>>>  > Switched to a new branch 'cosmetic'
>>>  >
>>>  > // now we work on the tomee 2.0 feature and commit
>>>  > git status
>>>  > git add pom.xml
>>>  > git commit -m "moving end tag up"
>>>  >
>>>  > // ready to merge back to develop
>>>  > git checkout develop
>>>  >
>>>  > // update develop
>>>  > git pull
>>>  >
>>>  > // merge our local branch
>>>  > git merge cosmetic
>>>  > Updating edaf6d2..21ad55b
>>>  > Fast-forward
>>>  >  pom.xml |    3 +--
>>>  >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>  >
>>>  > // push to remote develop
>>>  > git push
>>>  >
>>>  > // delete local branch
>>>  > git branch -d cosmetic
>>>  > Deleted branch cosmetic (was 21ad55b).
>>>  >
>>>  > // if we have a new feature, we repeat step from this step...
>>>  > git checkout -b new_feature develop
>>>  > ...
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  > Basically, we don't touch "origin/master". Only when we
>> merge
>>>  > "origin/tomee.1.7.x" (or "origin/develop") back to
>> it.
>>>  > I don't see a problem. We just need to keep in mind what
>> "origin/master",
>>>  > "origin/develop" and "origin/tomee.1.7.x"
>> represent.
>>>  >
>>>  > Is that right?
>>>  >
>>>  > []s,
>>>  > Thiago.
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  > On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 4:59 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
>>>  rmannibu...@gmail.com>
>>>  > wrote:
>>>  >
>>>  >> well it is by design opposed to apache way since if it is used it
>> is
>>>  >> to have the ability to change commit history - if not it is really
>>>  >> useless.
>>>  >>
>>>  >>
>>>  >> Romain Manni-Bucau
>>>  >> @rmannibucau
>>>  >> http://www.tomitribe.com
>>>  >> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com
>>>  >> https://github.com/rmannibucau
>>>  >>
>>>  >>
>>>  >> 2015-01-28 10:57 GMT+01:00 Andy Gumbrecht
>> <agumbre...@tomitribe.com>:
>>>  >> > I know I set it up this way, but I am really +0 at the
>> moment. I don't
>>>  >> feel
>>>  >> > any anger towards it though. It is not 'my way',
>> rather the Gitflow
>>>  way.
>>>  >> >
>>>  >> > I'm not going to push it other than to point to the
>> description of
>>>  >> Gitflow.
>>>  >> > It's only going to make sense if you use it, and then
>> really only if
>>>  you
>>>  >> > play release manager, and then only if you are managing both
>> 1.7.x and
>>>  >> > develop releases.
>>>  >> >
>>>  >> > The scenario is described here in extreme detail -
>>>  >> >
>>>  >>
>>>
>> https://www.atlassian.com/git/tutorials/comparing-workflows/gitflow-workflow
>>>  >> >
>>>  >> > It just 'looks' future safe to do it that way, and
>> until the Gitflow
>>>  has
>>>  >> > been tried and tested on the upcoming releases we will not
>> know. Jon
>>>  >> should
>>>  >> > give us his feedback after the releases are done. And then we
>> should
>>>  all
>>>  >> > look at the repo. The decision to use it was based on that
>> description
>>>  >> and
>>>  >> > they guy who 'invented' it -
>>>  >> > http://nvie.com/posts/a-successful-git-branching-model/
>>>  >> >
>>>  >> > I actually don't know what is so painful about using
>> '-b develop' on
>>>  the
>>>  >> > initial developer checkout? That's it, everything else is
>> identical.
>>>  As a
>>>  >> > developer it is trivial. Where are the hard line drawbacks to
>> it other
>>>  >> than
>>>  >> > to say it's crap? Why is is so painful for some? I really
>> want to
>>>  >> understand
>>>  >> > what is causing the hate?
>>>  >> >
>>>  >> > The simple idea is that 'master' only ever contains
>> production ready
>>>  >> code,
>>>  >> > that's it. No more no less.
>>>  >> >
>>>  >> > Anyway, if everyone agrees on a way forward then votes on it
>> then I
>>>  >> really
>>>  >> > am +0, as it is not hard to do it either way.
>>>  >> >
>>>  >> > That doesn't mean:
>>>  >> > -1 It's crap!
>>>  >> >
>>>  >> > That does mean:
>>>  >> > -1 It's crap because.... and I will document 'my
>> way' for everyone to
>>>  >> follow
>>>  >> > to the letter.
>>>  >> >
>>>  >> > Andy.
>>>  >> >
>>>  >> >
>>>  >> > On 28/01/2015 09:55, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
>>>  >> >>
>>>  >> >> hehe feel less alone now, +1
>>>  >> >>
>>>  >> >>
>>>  >> >> Romain Manni-Bucau
>>>  >> >> @rmannibucau
>>>  >> >> http://www.tomitribe.com
>>>  >> >> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com
>>>  >> >> https://github.com/rmannibucau
>>>  >> >>
>>>  >> >>
>>>  >> >> 2015-01-28 9:53 GMT+01:00 Mark Struberg
>> <strub...@yahoo.de>:
>>>  >> >>>
>>>  >> >>> Hi folks!
>>>  >> >>>
>>>  >> >>> Just noticed that our branch naming schema in GIT is
>> still
>>>  outerwordly
>>>  >> >>> fucked up.
>>>  >> >>>
>>>  >> >>>
>>>  >> >>>
>>>  >> >>> Why don't we do it as everyone else does?
>>>  >> >>> What does this crap of development branch do?
>> It's total nonsense to
>>>  >> have
>>>  >> >>> it!
>>>  >> >>>
>>>  >> >>> There is NO RTC for development at whole ASF except
>> for MAINTENANCE
>>>  >> >>> BRANCHES maybe. All the standard community work is
>> CTR (Commmit Then
>>>  >> Review)
>>>  >> >>> That's a community wide modus operandi and we
>> should follow it as
>>>  well.
>>>  >> >>>
>>>  >> >>>
>>>  >> >>> So I for one will totally ignore this development
>> branch when
>>>  working
>>>  >> on
>>>  >> >>> the TCK in the next days.
>>>  >> >>>
>>>  >> >>> Can we please finally merge in all the good work in
>> the development
>>>  >> >>> branch to master and delete it finally?
>>>  >> >>>
>>>  >> >>>
>>>  >> >>> LieGrue,
>>>  >> >>> strub
>>>  >> >>
>>>  >> >>
>>>  >> >>
>>>  >> >> --
>>>  >> >>    Andy Gumbrecht
>>>  >> >>    https://twitter.com/AndyGeeDe
>>>  >> >>    http://www.tomitribe.com
>>>  >>
>>>
>>

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